Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois II - DAZN PPV

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  • Damn Wicked
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    #231
    Originally posted by HisExcellency
    Interesting to note that the ending of the fight was eerily similar to the AJ fight where both men were throwing bombs only this time Usyk landed FIRST. The difference being that only Dubois was hurt
    The biggest difference was that Usyk won every round of this fight and was never hurt or compromised. Joshua had been hurt a few times against Dubois and Dubios also got rocked by AJ. Joshua's mistake was recklessly going for the kill while Dubois still wasn't completely gone and Joshua was still recovering. Joshua fought that fight really foolishly. These big heavyweights Achilles Heal is their power. It's because they're so big and powerful that they didn't think they had the need to become technically proficient, so they cut corners in their training. They're lazy thinkers and lazy minded fighters. Even the fans still always expect the BIGGER, more powerful guy to beat the smaller guy even when the smaller guy is more skillful and despite what we have witnessed throughout the history of boxing...The more skilled guy has the best advantages, not the more powerful guy.

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    • Pete_The_Man
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      #232
      I dunno about Lennox but prime Tyson would have been a stylistic nightmare for Usyk

      Prime Tyson had
      1. Elite Foot speed
      2. Elite Hand speed
      3. Elite Stamina
      4. Elite Chin
      5. Elite Knockout power in both hands
      Those 5 things are an impossible list of qualities for Usyk to overcome.

      To beat prime Mike Tyson, you had to beat the **** outta of him, round after round. You have to be brave and stand and trade with him centre ring and not take a step back and test his heart and desire. Usyk doesn't fight like that.

      But if Usyk did stand toe to toe with Prime Tyson ? He's dead. He would not have the power to hurt Tyson, nor would he have the power that Tyson would respect.

      If Usyk got on his bike ? Even worse, Tyson's foot speed would catch him and kill him

      And prime Tyson was (And a lotta people don't realise this, and he doesn't get enough credit for it) a gym rat. Young Mike was a spartan, one of the most professional, hardest working heavyweight champs​




      We are talking prime Tyson, he could run a 5-minute mile, row 2000m in under 7 mins, he trained like a Triathlete.

      You know what that means ? That means if Usyk was to get past 4 rounds tyson wouldn't gas like these modern day silverbacks do.
      Last edited by Pete_The_Man; 07-19-2025, 06:04 PM.

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        #233
        I must have turned it off before this happened or was this not apart of the broadcast? Lol

        Paul posted it and mentioned them doing MMA fight that has previously be mentioned on social media .

        Usyk wrecks him either way lol
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        • Damn Wicked
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          #234
          Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

          Most are saying he quit but it was strange, honestly. That hook from Usyk could've knocked out an elephant but after Dubois got up, he walked STRAIGHT across the ring after he was counted out. I mean, he immeeediately stood up and walked across the ring. Again, that hook could've concussed anything over 1,000 lbs.
          Dubois was concussed...I guarantee you he'll be going to the hospital and he'll be having a brain scan. He was hurt badly.

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          • Heru
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            #235
            Originally posted by Toffee

            I think it will be whatever Usyk wants it to be.

            I like Parker. Always liked him and thought he would come again and he definitely deserves the fight. But I don't see him realistically competing with Usyk.

            IMO Kabayel might have the best style to be a chance right now. But, again, I don't see anyone beating Usyk.

            I'll get pelters for saying this, but Joshua's effort was probably about as good as it gets. I don't think anyone has really pushed him harder and he still won both of those fights pretty conclusively.

            I do hope that Usyk sticks around another year or two for Itauma. It might still be a bit soon for Moses, but that would be a really fitting way to sign out.
            I have Usyk eventually imposing himself on Parker, but it will be nip and tuck before that happens. Parker has a knack for slowing fights down and with his speed, movement, and counter punching above, he’s going to have success in the early rounds.

            Usyk’s the wrong style for Kabayel’s plodding, come forward style. He’d get pieced up.

            The second Joshua and the first Fury fight might be Usyk’s toughest fight thus far. Usyk had to go through tough rounds in those fights.

            Moses is on the fast track for Usyk. The Whyte fight is a huge step up in opponent. If he passes that, it’ll be a former Usyk opponent and/or a top 10 Heavyweight and we might see that as soon as late 2026. Great style, we’ll see if he has the intangibles to get to and through Usyk.

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              #236
              Originally posted by Damn Wicked

              Dubois was concussed...I guarantee you he'll be going to the hospital and he'll be having a brain scan. He was hurt badly.
              Agreed. Gladly, he has some size on him. A smaller HW would've needed some smelling salt after taking a shot like that.

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                #237
                Opetia and Kabayel I think are the only ones who can challenge him .. Parker too slow. Usyk will pick him off

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Pete_The_Man
                  To beat prime Mike Tyson, you had to beat the **** outta of him, round after round. You have to be brave and stand and trade with him centre ring and not take a step back and test his heart and desire. Usyk doesn't fight like that.

                  But if Usyk did stand toe to toe with Prime Tyson ? He's dead. He would not have the power to hurt Tyson, nor would he have the power that Tyson would respect.

                  If Usyk got on his bike ? Even worse, Tyson's foot speed would catch him and kill him
                  You've just watched Usyk take centre ring against bigger men over the last few years. He did it again tonight against a guy intent on applying pressure. A braver man you won't find.

                  He fights where he needs to fight.

                  No, he wouldn't stand and trade with Tyson. He's too good for that. You don't need to take centre ring by trading punches if you're as good as Usyk.

                  I wouldn't put Tyson in the Usyk conversation personally. Great at his peak, but never this level of elite fighter.

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                  • Toffee
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by BirdSong

                    fury 1 was usyks hardest fight and he has said that in an interview
                    He said that before the rematch. Sensible right? On other occasions he has said Chisora or Joshua.

                    He gets asked a lot of questions and says a lot of things.

                    Personally I think that second fight was as close as anyone has run him. Through 9 I believe Joshua was ahead and had just had his best round of the two fights. Usyk brought it home convincingly from 10 on but he was definitely challenged. I think the last 3 rounds and Joshua's post fight mental collapse have made people forget what a good fight that was. Possibly the best version of Joshua that we ever saw, and just possibly a slightly diminished Usyk given what went on the buildup.
                    Last edited by Toffee; 07-19-2025, 06:31 PM.

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                    • BirdSong
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by Toffee

                      He said that before the rematch. Sensible right? On other occasions he has said Chisora or Joshua.

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                      ive never heard him say chisora or joshua were his hardest fights lol

                      he said chisora hit him hard i remember that alrite

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