Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua pledges to come back ?raring to go? in 2025

[Bob]

My prediction, same as the rest of Ajs smoke & mirrors career.. Least risk most reward.
I think it'll be non punching cans until the belts split & Aj buys another paper belt for his collection for 3 times!

[Bob]

Let's not pretend like the belts won't eventually get scattered around, and AJ perhaps can still beat most of the top 10 heavyweights other than the few we've already seen him lose to. Yea, guys like Zhang could beat him, but they could just as easily be beaten.

Exactly what Aj & Eddie are waiting for, the belts to split.... I just wrote that in the comment above.
Zhang yeah maybe but he's 41-42 (ajs boxed far to many shot old men) id like to see Aj v Kabayel or Prime Parker. Ajs just refused to fight Miller, ive never been convinced by Bakolie. How about Sanchez or Ajagba?
Personally i believe Ajs only the 3rd best heavyweight in his own gym.

[Jab jab boom]

Anthony Joshua since becoming a World Champion 'Has never really fought back at domestic level. The lowest level fighters he has fought were? Jermaine Franklin and Robert Helenius, who would be solid wins on any other active heavyweight fighters resume. Jermaine Franklin could be the best American Heavyweight fighter, currently right now. If Jermaine Franklin vs Deontay Wilder was made next, this would arguably be a 50/50 fight'.

Rest assured, if and when Anthony Joshua fights again 'He will not be fighting fighters at the level of Tryell Herdon, he will be entering back in the game at World level. That is the difference really between Anthony Joshua and the two other heavyweight mountains of this era. Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder'.

Note: Anthony Joshua as a competitor does hold himself to a higher standard, and I believe? In this latter part of their careers, those standards will start to show up. Anthony Joshua has proved himself as a World to elite level fighter, many more times than both Fury and Wilder. And that is why when those two fighters suffer loses, they ether retire or drop back down the levels in the game. Contrary to certain narratives, I believe it is Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder who are more shook from their loses than Anthony Joshua'.

I am not sure why you are mentioning Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder in your posts 'Fury as tactically retired, in order to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua. And Deontay Wilder has clearly stated he needs more time and work before he challenges a fighter at the level of Anthony Joshua'.

To conclude: Both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder originally fought each other to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua 'And now that this fight is more straight forward, and easier to make than at any point in recent boxing history. Once again it is clear that? Neither of those fighters are game when it comes to Anthony Joshua, stylistically Joshua has always been an extremely difficult fight for them both. So I disagree, Fury and Wilder are not realistic options for Anthony Joshua's imminent comeback fight'.

I like the idea of a fight against Fabio Wardley, Martin Bakole, Efe Ajagba, a rematch vs Joseph Parker or a trilogy fight vs Andy Ruiz Junior III 'All of those fights Anthony Joshua has something to gain from a win, ether from a competitive perspective or on pure heavyweight rankings. And I am sure all of those potential opponents mentioned would relish the opportunity to fight Anthony Joshua, it would pretty much the biggest fight of their careers' etc.

This is a crock of shyt and cheap attempt to prop AJ up to be something he wasn’t. Blaming others for him not facing the only other two heavyweights that mattered during his era while they were willing to face each other 3x. Meanwhile you say they were not game but Aj twirled around with UK level , not world level comp, and got made to quit by a fat undisciplined Ruiz. He was the one who wasn’t game. AJ was never as good as he was made to be and stylistically both Fury and wilder were worse for AJ than he ever was for them, especially taking into account his lack of will to win. His chin is soft and heart is softer.

[ShoulderRoll]

Little Usyk turned out to be the best heavyweight of this era. The others were all found wanting in one way or another, especially Joshua.

[thack]

Interesting words after such a brutal KO and never looking worst .Good luck but it will derail if he were ever to fight another live one . He had his chance with Daniel but refused .I suppose he wants to hang around for the belts to spilt and fight another Charles Martin type to call himself a three time world champion .Any thing outside a carefully matched fight for Joshua spells disaster. I certainly won't be buying as there's much better and worthy fighters out there than Anthony Joshua .

[PRINCEKOOL]

What a loada rose tinted glasses b######s. Name 1 prime elite heavyweight Ajs beaten? Cant cann you.
Aj coming back at world level? Ajs entire resume is full of shot past it 38-41yr olds, cans & prospect Parker upto Dubois.
His entire career has been least risk most reward.

2018 world expecting undesputed, In a sky tv interview with Johnny Nelson Aj told the world "i wont be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said "19 20 21" Then in a separate interview heard said Wilder Aj 2020 & maybe he'll loose by then.....theyre plan all along backed by the facts & not your fiction. Aj then turned down 50 mill to face wilder all after Wilder accepted Eddie's 14 mill 3rd offer low ball to call they're bluff.
Yes 2019 Wilder walked away from the dazn talks whith dazn admitting they got it wrong.
Fury ducked Aj?? No Aj sent back the Fury contract demanding Aside status & commecial control.

Personally i dislike all 3 & was grateful Usyk came along & saved the division. I can't put up with the likes of your lies.

I would imagine outside of boxing 'You only really follow sports, which are all based on opinion. That is alright? Because sometimes I play that game as well. But the big difference is, I back my opinion up with hardcore evidence. When I enter into any sort of serious debate? I ask myself the question? If this debate was being held in Oxford or Cambridge Unions, would my points and argument have creditability'.

Objectively and statistically Anthony Joshua has still beaten more top level heavyweight fighters, than Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder even Oleksandr Usyk. They are the objective facts of this heavyweight boxing era, people need to understand? When I state those points about Anthony Joshua's resume, it is not an opinion. I have not made any of this up, it is documented boxing history'.

What Heavyweight fighters at their peak as Anthony Joshua beaten? Joseph Parker, Andy Ruiz Junior, Dillian Whyte 'But guess what? Those are still not his best wins. Anthony Joshua's best win is still Wladimir Kiltschko. The version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have fought in their schedule rematch, but unfortunately he did not due to his then circumstance. Joshua did not fight Kiltschko on the back foot, and he did not win on points. Anthony Joshua knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko, in the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. On that night the Heavyweight Division was conclusively taken into a completely new dynasty'.

Twice in Tyson Fury's career, Anthony Joshua has stepped up to conclude Fury's own battles for him 'First against Wladimir Kiltschko and then almost 9 years later against Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury his entire career, has sat back and watched Joshua outperform him against all their common opponents which they have shared. The primary goal of boxing, is to render your opponent incapable of defending themselves. A fighter can achieve this by ether? Knocking their opponent out, or beating down the opponent and forcing them to forfeit the fight. Anthony Joshua has achieved this level of win and performance vs Wladimir Kiltschko. Otto Wallin and Francis Ngannou'.

And then we have the 4 fights that both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua had vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'In my opinion Anthony Joshua fought a better version of Uysk, and produced a better effort over the entire 24 rounds of action compared to Tyson Fury'.

Note: Here are some statistics for you below, which pretty much back up my opinion 'That Anthony Joshua fought a better fight than Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II'.

Workrate produced:Over the 48 rounds of action vs Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua.

Anthony Joshua over his two fights with Uysk, his work rate superior to Tyson Fury's 'Joshua threw 641 punches in the first fight, and then 492 punches in the rematch. Joshua's second fight with Uysk, showed that tactically? He was attempting to manage his pace more efficiently, which he did. But Uysk in response to this threw 712 punches. Out of all 4 Heavyweight titles fights vs both Fury and Joshua, Oleksandr Uysk produced his highest work rate vs Anthony Joshua II'.

Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I personally regard that fight, as the absolute peak version of Uysk. Uysk vs Joshua II was throwing on average 300 + more punches than he did vs Tyson Fury I & II.

Punches landed: Over the 48 rounds of action vs Tyson Fury and Anthony'.

And people need to factor this in? The highest amount of punches, Uysk landed on Anthony Joshua 'Was during their rematch. 170 Punches. The highest amount of punches Uysk landed on Tyson Fury, was 179 punches during their rematch. Oleksandr Uysk was also able to land 170 punches on Tyson Fury in their first fight. While Oleksandr Uysk was able to land a total of 148 punches on Anthony Joshua during their first fight'.

Tyson Fury during his first fight against Oleksandr Uysk landed a total of 157 punches, and during the rematch he landed 144 punches. Anthony Joshua during his first fight against Oleksandr Uysk landed a total of 123 punches, and during their rematch landed a total of 124 punches'.

Note: The statistics of the fight action from all four fights, showed that Oleksandr Uysk in order to beat Anthony Joshua twice back to back 'Had to produce a greater effort, than he did up against Tyson Fury in their fights. Uysk had to produce a higher work rate against Joshua, in order to land a similar amount of punches that he did on Tyson Fury'.

The only area of the 48 round of action where Tyson Fury did better than Anthony Joshua 'Was being able to land more punches. That is it. But in all other areas of boxing, Anthony Joshua actually fought a better fight twice back to back than Tyson Fury. The statistics of the fight action, show there is hardcore evidence to back up this observation and opinion of mine'.

To conclude: All of this evidence is why I personally have always believed stylistically Anthony Joshua has always been a difficult fight for Tyson Fury. And I would imagine that Tyson Fury himself and his team all know this? Tyson Fury's conduct and actions when concerning Anthony Joshua, have always convey the information that he apprehensive of Anthony Joshua as a competitor'.

I stated in my post the other day? Tyson Fury is one of the three heavyweight mountains of this era, he has been a great fighter 'But he is not about that life guys i.e. I am about 95% sure that Tyson Fury has never had a straightener or fight outside the ring in his life. He is no bare knuckle fighter, but? He has benefited from being associated with this culture. None of his brothers are about that life, this is what people need to understand about them. And this is no disrespect, I don't think fighting outside of the ring is something to be really condoned'.

But when you are a professional fighter 'Who has benefited and promotes yourself, as being associated and a bi-product of this fighting culture. When you are in a competitive situation, where in my opinion? You seem not to be about that life. Then I am going to call you out'.

It is 2025, Tyson Fury has tactically retired to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua 'There are no obstacles in the way of making that fight. Neither fighter is a world champion, and as Eddie Hearn has recently stated? The fight could be agreed within minutes on a phone. The main factor stopping the fight from being made is Tyson Fury'.

If ever the situation occurs were both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua cross pathways on the street 'I would back Anthony Joshua. And inside a boxing ring, I would definitively back Joshua' etc.

[Willow The Wisp]

These are his only options left. Who he's going to face will probably let you know who made the decision between AJ or Hearn. Hearn would love to continue milking AJ for as long as possible and he could probably get away with it, letting AJ fight another stiff. Though if they want to make the absolute most buck before retirement, it has to be any of the 3 mentioned. I also think for AJ's personal peace of mind in the future, if he doesn't want to continue being asked why did the Fury/Wilder fight never happen, he should probably face them to at least end that question. There are some things that he will no doubt regret if he retires without setting things right.

There were, as one poster has often mentioned, THREE "mountains of this 2015 - 2025 ("Post Klitschko borothers") era".

Three title holders who prisided over the contenders ranked by the bodies who managed the belts they held.

Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and the actual champion, Tyson Fury.

Wladimir Klitschko and Oleksandr Usyk serve as bookends.

In a twist produced by the fan-confusing, sport killing status quo of tolerating multiple "world champions", Fury was the real champion even through his sparse activity and long absences; Wilder had the most title defenses and most dominant performances, and Joshua became the most popular.

Fury and Wilder fought to an epic, rise from the dead draw and fought twice more to settle finally things between them; while Joshua was forced to sit out the tournament because of losses to underdogs.

And yet.....it was Joshua who arguably defended against the greatest number of top ranked opponents!

Scalps he earned against Dilian Whyte, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale, Joseph Parker, retired Wladimir Klitschko, Carlos Takam, Alexander Povetkin and Kubrat Pulev combine to demonstrate this, if only by a nose.

Like being a pro wrestling fan in the 1970s!!!! Who's the real champ? Bruno Sanmartino? Terry Funk? Nick Bockwinkel? Harley Race?

I've been warning people for years that chaos will be the result of allowing phoney world titles to be sold to promoters on the open market.


On the other hand...
In some respects Joshua's situation is reminiscent of Floyd Patterson and his own two stints reigning as champion. Floyd defended often, became immensely rich and famous; was respected as a willing and able champion....but his management team steered clear of the 3 best heavyweights of the era; Machen, Folley and Williams; each a much better fighter than anyone who Patterson had fought as champion.

Joshua's peak was better talent packed than the other two's were, but the other two were both the big targets that Joshua missed out on shooting for.

What a sport we follow.

[cace]

just seen joshua and hearn at wimbledon

[BodiesInFlight]

just seen joshua and hearn at wimbledon

Who was winning?

[Willow The Wisp]

Little Usyk turned out to be the best heavyweight of this era. The others were all found wanting in one way or another, especially Joshua.

This is true, although Usyk was a bit late to the party.
Every fighter is lacking something, sometimes.

If Dubois is now a finished product and he finds a way to take Usyk's 0....Be sure to look up, cuz something's falling fast.