Comments Thread For: BoxingScene?s Midweek Mailbag: Keyshawn Davis? controversies and more

[BoxingUpdates]

In this week?s mailbag, we tackle your thoughts on Keyshawn Davis coming in overweight for his canceled fight with Edwin De Los Santos and the confrontation Davis had with Nahir Albright the next night; and how good Fabio Wardley may or may not be following his come-from-behind knockout of Justis Huni.
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[DeeMoney]

Props to the writer of the first letter. I agree, the whole Davis incident was deplorable, but if you enjoy the young man's in ring ability and want to keep rooting for him you should.

Its insane to me how people base their fandom or willingness to support a business, team, or organization based on actions completely unrelated to the actual job of that business, team, or organization. IE I won't patronize a place who supports a different politician than I do (and yes I am ready for all the misled, strawman, A.H. comparisons and analogies now).

I guess I shouldnt be shocked, everyone has to outdo each other in their outrage and virtue signaling (from every side of the equation), so ya'll pull this nonsense all the time. But the truth is, if I am rooting for a boxer, its usually because I enjoy how he boxes. If he did something wrong outside the ring, I will hope he does better but I can still enjoy him in the ring and root for him as such. Ditto with restaurants, bands, dept stores, etc.

[Corelone]

Im not rooting for a criminal. I dont like bullies and im not supporting assaults outside the ring. He tried to cheat in the ring, tell me its not related.

[The D3vil]

I swear Floyd has some of the worst fans in the history of boxing.

They really are a stain on his legacy as an all-time great.

[brankobugarski]

I swear Floyd has some of the worst fans in the history of boxing.

They really are a stain on his legacy as an all-time great.

I never liked Floyd but I have to admit that he is an all time great if not TBE. If he isn't I don't know who is.

[Robi13]

Keyshawn is ducking Abdullah mason.. that’s why he missed weight.

[BustedKnuckles]

Its insane to me how people base their fandom or willingness to support a business, team, or organization based on actions completely unrelated to the actual job of that business...

As if.

There are loads of reasons that you personally wouldnt use a business, that might have nothing to do with the actual servce there. That business owner of company could be into all kinds of stuff you wouldnt want to support or affiliate with. Just think a little deeper.

We all have our boundries. It just so happens that running around and attacking other fighters, who beat your overrated brother, and are now exhausted, is a boundary for most reasonable boxing fans.

It isn't virtue signaling. It's discernment.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Props to the writer of the first letter. I agree, the whole Davis incident was deplorable, but if you enjoy the young man's in ring ability and want to keep rooting for him you should.

Its insane to me how people base their fandom or willingness to support a business, team, or organization based on actions completely unrelated to the actual job of that business, team, or organization. IE I won't patronize a place who supports a different politician than I do (and yes I am ready for all the misled, strawman, A.H. comparisons and analogies now).

I guess I shouldnt be shocked, everyone has to outdo each other in their outrage and virtue signaling (from every side of the equation), so ya'll pull this nonsense all the time. But the truth is, if I am rooting for a boxer, its usually because I enjoy how he boxes. If he did something wrong outside the ring, I will hope he does better but I can still enjoy him in the ring and root for him as such. Ditto with restaurants, bands, dept stores, etc.

My post was actually in response to thread on this board someone started a few days back but I'm glad it got included in the mailbag. I agree with you, I'm just a fan of the sport and Keyshawn's skills. It's not like I'm supporting or promoting an ethics coaching business he has on the side. I don't know the guy personally and more than likely will never sit down and share a meal with the man, but I like the way he fights and will continue to watch his fights.

I agree with you about restaurants, bands, actors, etc.. My taste in music isn't gonna change because an artist is no longer as nice or as cool as I thought they were, if a song speaks to me, it speaks to me....

[DeeMoney]

As if.

There are loads of reasons that you personally wouldnt use a business, that might have nothing to do with the actual servce there. That business owner of company could be into all kinds of stuff you wouldnt want to support or affiliate with. Just think a little deeper.

We all have our boundries. It just so happens that running around and attacking other fighters, who beat your overrated brother, and are now exhausted, is a boundary for most reasonable boxing fans.

It isn't virtue signaling. It's discernment.

Theoretically speaking, sure there are 'loads' of reasons, but for me, not really that many that come up in real life. Theoretically, the owner of a business could publicly announce all profits are being directly given to a 5atanist cult that will use the funds to murder innocent women and children- then yes I would not support them. Though that doesnt happen- however, most people portray those who disagree with their political views in such a strawman light all the time (dems say this about reps and vice versa- but it isnt true).

But I don't think I need to think a little deeper on it, I have plenty of friends and family who act this way. Company that owns a shop openly supports political or social views that differ from mine...well they protest and don't shop there. Me, I'm fine, they are free to have different political views, doesn't make them the evil person I cited above (though we like to act that our political and social views are so correct that anyone who differs must be that wrong). I'll still buy my shirt there if I like the shirt.

But what if the owner of the company is an awful guy? Hey, I still buy hook-up baits and that dude did some messed up stuff. But what if he's a former criminal? Then he's paid his debt to society and its not my place to punish him further, thats what the courts are for. But what if he wasn't convicted? Once again, thats what the courts are for, I don't feel its my place.

I listen to bands who write songs that go against my beliefs, but they still are good songs. I watch movies with actors who espouse different ideals than I hold to, and sometimes mock mine- but they make good movies.

Not writing there isn't a line, just that the line is so far off havent seen it (ie the example at the start). I accept others can have different ideals and beliefs than me, and that doesnt make them by default wretched and evil to the point where I should protest patronizing their business. I think that belief is arrogant, and one of the several that permeates society today driving a wedge between us (heaven forbid someone feel the opposite of me).

But I'll write this, if there was an openly r@cist and b1goted doctor out there, but he could cure cancer. I'd make sure to take my sick grandparent to him- I guess many here wouldnt though, they may have more discernment in that way.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Being unprofessional and losing your belt on the scale because you didn't even try to make weight is absolutely part of the sport and relevant to what happens in the ring. If you want to support unprofessional weight bullies, you do you. And if you want to support people who are thugs and criminals, again, you do you. But don't be surprised if other people don't want to. IMO a champion is supposed to be an example to aspire to. With the rewards comes the responsibility to live up to it. IIRC there's conduct requirements for belt holders with most of the alphabet organizations too, so it's still relevant.