Comments Thread For: Jaime Munguia present for unsealing of "B" sample for evaluation

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  • dannnnn
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    #31
    "I've been tested several times, and I've only failed most of them" - Jarrell Miller, probably

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #32
      Originally posted by Smash

      on fight night? how about any time
      Yes, any time.

      I was in a rush when I posted earlier. Didn’t mean to imply that ONLY a fight night drug test failure merits a suspension and fine.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Yes, any time.

        I was in a rush when I posted earlier. Didn’t mean to imply that ONLY a fight night drug test failure merits a suspension and fine.
        Even though you said Shane Mosley’s admitted PED use doesn’t disqualify him from ATG status because he didn’t fail a drug test while he was a Lightweight “at his best” ?

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        • landotter
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          #34
          This entire thread needs to be tested. It has really looked at the rails and said " Nah, let's get off those bad boys"..

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          • Nightfall
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            #35
            Eddie Reynoso's tainted meat program

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            • Verus
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              #36
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              Hair follicle provided doesn't prove anything.

              Certainly doesn't prove his innocence.
              Two points: One, hair follicle being clean provides evidence that the clenbuterol​ was not in his system long enough to be of any benefit. Two, once it was discovered that Canelo had it in his system, NOTHING proves his innocence. Guilt on innocence has to do with intent. The point is to prove him guilty, not to prove him innocent. Perhaps the best way to deal with the use of PEDS is to sanction the athletes irrespective of their guilt or innocence.

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              • 57Blues
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                #37
                Originally posted by Smash
                he looks like a cheat in that photo
                Man they make it like a major event this pissparty they are talking about...... they ought to have a theme song to go with the opening of the bottle......

                Maybe they should play the song by the Animals " Dont let me be misunderstood " yea i am human like any other man.................

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Verus

                  Two points: One, hair follicle being clean provides evidence that the clenbuterol​ was not in his system long enough to be of any benefit. Two, once it was discovered that Canelo had it in his system, NOTHING proves his innocence. Guilt on innocence has to do with intent. The point is to prove him guilty, not to prove him innocent. Perhaps the best way to deal with the use of PEDS is to sanction the athletes irrespective of their guilt or innocence.
                  First point, it doesn’t prove that.

                  All it proves is Clenbruetol was not detectable in his body for a long period of time. There are a number of reasons why that may be.

                  Second point, I agree. An athlete can’t be proved innocent at that point.

                  And they’re guilty as soon as the drugs are detected. Even IF it’s genuinely a mistake it’s both the athletes fault and problem.

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