Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao reflects on Hall of Fame past while looking to make new history

[djtmal]

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We can have a normal healthy discourse about boxing and our fav fighters but it’s pretty obvious we are never going to agree on anything and we’ll be doing the typical whataboutism so let’s do that …..

Manny chose to go to WW.

Yeah but you was talking about Williams being one punch ko'd by Martinez at middleweight a division Floyd was too scared to meet GGG at after saying he was nothing special yet you are insinuating Floyd would beat Williams easy. He had a chance but ducked him.

Floyd was scared to come out of retirement while Williams was at ww, scared to do what Williams did move up and take on prime killers. Scared to make a fight with the best version of Manny until he got ko'd wtf else is there.

[djtmal]

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Floyd walked around 150 Ibs so he gave up height/reach to every single guy he fought at WW except for Marquez.

gtfoh he told you Floyd Boys he walked around at 150 i don't believe that bs for one second, he had reach advantage against most of those ww's because they weren't natural ww's to begin with Guerrero Hatton Ortiz Zab Baldy Madonna Berto Manny he wasn't fighting natural ww's like Williams and Margarito too scared

[Oregonian]

manny is giving up even more since manny is overall smaller than floyd in height, reach, etc.

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I never disputed that. I simply stated what djtmal intentionally leaves out.
Floyd was not a natural WW and everyone he fought at WW since 2006 was bigger than him except for Marquez.
Pretty sure you might mention Hatton while leaving out one simple fact. Floyd came up to 140 in 2005 when Hatton was already at that weight for years and then suddenly Floyd was bigger than him later on?

[djtmal]

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Floyd was not a natural WW and everyone he fought at WW since 2006 was bigger than him except for Marquez.

So Zab, Baldy, Sharmba, Hatton, Manny, Guerrero Ortiz Berto Madonna 2x had height and reach on Floyd

How many natural welterweights did Floyd actually beat

[IceTrayDaGang]

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I never disputed that. I simply stated what djtmal intentionally leaves out.
Floyd was not a natural WW and everyone he fought at WW since 2006 was bigger than him except for Marquez.
Pretty sure you might mention Hatton while leaving out one simple fact. Floyd came up to 140 in 2005 when Hatton was already at that weight for years and then suddenly Floyd was bigger than him later on?

im not interested in what yall were debating.. im just pointing out that manny is smaller than floyd so manny is at a greater disadvantage since you were talking about how small floyd is.

[djtmal]

im not interested in what yall were debating.. im just pointing out that manny is smaller than floyd so manny is at a greater disadvantage since you were talking about how small floyd is.

Floyd being too small only comes into play, when you talking about Margarito Williams GGG Sergio but lightweight Marquez it's on and popping

[Oregonian]

Yeah but you was talking about Williams being one punch ko'd by Martinez at middleweight a division Floyd was too scared to meet GGG at after saying he was nothing special yet you are insinuating Floyd would beat Williams easy. He had a chance but ducked him.

Floyd was scared to come out of retirement while Williams was at ww, scared to do what Williams did move up and take on prime killers. Scared to make a fight with the best version of Manny until he got ko'd wtf else is there.

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Floyd’s ceiling was 147 and you know that. Perhaps he should have fought GGG at a catchweight of 150 the way Manny did with Margarito for a dubious 154 vacant title?

The best version of Manny was DESTROYED by a single Marquez punch.

Also “the best version” of Manny was when he was cherry-picking disadvantaged guys. Morales and a bunch other beat him him at lowered weight classes but that’s wasn’t the best version.

And then Marquez destroys him in 2012 AND NOW he’s no longer the best version.

That same “best version” refused to fight Floyd in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 but waited for Floyd to get old to start calling him out. Ridiculous

[Oregonian]

im not interested in what yall were debating.. im just pointing out that manny is smaller than floyd so manny is at a greater disadvantage since you were talking about how small floyd is.

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I wasn’t taking about how small Floyd is. I never brought that argument up. djtmal brought it up.

Also, Manny’s disadvantaged was miraculously mitigated by his incredulous catchweight demands so he evened out his supposedly disadvantages.

[Oregonian]

Floyd being too small only comes into play, when you talking about Margarito Williams GGG Sergio but lightweight Marquez it's on and popping

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And Manny’s disadvantages pops up when he fights guys he weakens with catchweight demands.

[IceTrayDaGang]

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I wasn’t taking about how small Floyd is. I never brought that argument up. djtmal brought it up.

Also, Manny’s disadvantaged was miraculously mitigated by his incredulous catchweight demands so he evened out his supposedly disadvantages.

you stated that floyd is not a natural WW and everyone he fought aside from marquez was bigger than him. im just pointing out that pac aint a natural WW either and is smaller than floyd. that's all.