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[Dr Z]

No.

It's all come from Martin Bakoles trainer Billy Nelson. So yes, yet more martin bakole sparring stories.

I don't know what his chin is like and we will find that out at some point

But at least with Itauma it's not like Jared Anderson who there was clearly never anything special about.

Itauma has the fastest handspeed I can remember seeing for a long time, he's faster than Parker, Ruiz and David Haye, I don't recall seeing faster handspeed at heavyweight.

The fact he can generate ko power whilst moving backwards is also extraordinary, it means opponents are literally never safe.

There's a lot of unanswered questions but if Itauma does have a solid chin he's going to be a serious problem

He is a good puncher with speed as you said. But power is tied to class, and he has a British jaw so ... we'll see.


It is unknown if he can keep his pace up, knows defense, or is a smart fighter. We will see when he steps up in class. But I think the hype around him is justified to an extent.


I think Anderson was the right size and could box. He had game, but he had a tiny heart for battle and a so-so chin. Average defense. He was a hype job

[Bennyleonard99]

Anderson isn't a fighter, but he looks like a fighter and is pretending to be a heavyweight prospect. Another Seth Mitchell. Bakole is a whale of a hitter, if he lands right on anybody, get the smelling salts. Bakole is a freak like Samson Pouha who many may not remember, a good solid top 20 heavyweight in the 90s who had a memorable TV fight with Andrew Golota. He hurt Golota so bad he said later he didn't know his name. Golota got up and his instinct was to bite Pouha on the shoulder neck region which bought him extra recovery time. Golota ended up winning. Pouha later served as a sparring partner for George Foreman but was kicked out of training camp because he hit too hard. But Pouha never made it to the top. Bakole could be another Pouha type.

[Bennyleonard99]

No.

It's all come from Martin Bakoles trainer Billy Nelson. So yes, yet more martin bakole sparring stories.

I don't know what his chin is like and we will find that out at some point

But at least with Itauma it's not like Jared Anderson who there was clearly never anything special about.

Itauma has the fastest handspeed I can remember seeing for a long time, he's faster than Parker, Ruiz and David Haye, I don't recall seeing faster handspeed at heavyweight.

The fact he can generate ko power whilst moving backwards is also extraordinary, it means opponents are literally never safe.

There's a lot of unanswered questions but if Itauma does have a solid chin he's going to be a serious problem

His power is astounding, falling back, short punches do huge damage. Wait till he lands clean with leverage. Amazing handspeed yet. Moves so fluid and easy, looks so natural in there. I think we can surmise his chin is reliable given the bold way he fights. There's no indication in his body language or eyes of a lack of trust in his chin. He looks like a young tiger who will not be denied.

[Willow The Wisp]

The next, big, strong, athletic tough guy who beleives in himself enough to commit to the lifestyle in pursuit of that quarter of a billion US dollars is ALWAYS right around the corner.

Ali did, Holmes did, Lewis did, Wladamir Klitschko did, Wilder did.
Joshua, Anderson, Parker, Ruiz Jr., and so many others simply did not.

Time will tell if Moses Itauma has a title win and ten or more title defenses in him. History will unfold.

[daggum]

His power is astounding, falling back, short punches do huge damage. Wait till he lands clean with leverage. Amazing handspeed yet. Moves so fluid and easy, looks so natural in there. I think we can surmise his chin is reliable given the bold way he fights. There's no indication in his body language or eyes of a lack of trust in his chin. He looks like a young tiger who will not be denied.

Is it wilder level?

[Bennyleonard99]

Is it wilder level?

I dont rate Wilder at all, his KOs all came against PBC set ups. When he was on his own the alleged power was not evident. Bird legs do not generate power. Itauma is the real deal, Wilder was a protected pretender. If Wilder's power was so special, Finkel and Haymon would not have dodged Klitschko, AJ, Povetkin, Whyte, Usyk.

[Willow The Wisp]

Is it wilder level?

Hard to say. Wilder had a 100% KO rate until he reached the world championship title level, which bested the starts of Dempsey, Baer, Louis, Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis.
And THAT champion (claimant), who took him the full route when he won the WBC strap, was blown away as if shot in the head when they rematched.

Moses Itauma has already been taken the route.
So by that measure, I'd be forced to say that Wilder still holds the record.

[MulaKO]

i have him number 2 on my pound for pound list. usyk has been ducking this guy for years

Moses only turned pro in 2023 but yeah Usyk is avoiding him

LMFAO

[Willow The Wisp]

I dont rate Wilder at all, his KOs all came against PBC set ups. When he was on his own the alleged power was not evident. Bird legs do not generate power. Itauma is the real deal, Wilder was a protected pretender. If Wilder's power was so special, Finkel and Haymon would not have dodged Klitschko, AJ, Povetkin, Whyte, Usyk.

Lol....PBC setups. A dozen WBC top 10 contenders, is what they were.

"Bird legs do not generate power" Tell that to Bob Foster, Thomas Hearns, Bob Fitzsimmons, Sugar Ray Robinson, etc.

Klitschko, AJ, Povetkin, Whyte....lol. Two of them made to order for Wilder and two more the same level that Wilder feasted upon for a decade. Four brutal knockouts, says I.

Just do what Trump tells you to do; or lose your sovereignty!

[Bennyleonard99]

Lol....PBC setups. A dozen WBC top 10 contenders, is what they were.

"Bird legs do not generate power" Tell that to Bob Foster, Thomas Hearns, Bob Fitzsimmons, Sugar Ray Robinson, etc.

Klitschko, AJ, Povetkin, Whyte....lol. Two of them made to order for Wilder and two more the same level that Wilder feasted upon for a decade. Four brutal knockouts, says I.

Just do what Trump tells you to do; or lose your sovereignty!

We have a victim of the PBC Haymon propaganda machine. You got rope a doped by a fraud. Even coaching from Mark Breland and jab tips from Lennox Lewis couldn't improve this bum a fraction.

Primo Carnera, James J Woody, Duane Bobick, Seth Mitchell, Deontay Wilder.