It's kinda funny....Abraham's best two wins....

[VipersThunder]

were knocking out opponents that Pavlik already knocked out, and for the first time.

AA's getting alot of acclaim right now, and yet Pavlik is treated as a joke on this forum these days.

Well that's because of the Hopkins fight.

[street bully]

Abraham is one fighter that would have me worried when it came to B-Hop winning. Abraham is basically a harder punching conventional version of Winky Wright. And Hopkins had to pull slick tricks out of the bag to deal with Winky. Would he be able to clinch Abraham like that without taking some damage? That one makes me wonder.

Man, dead this ****, Winky Wright that Hopkins fought was a technical master and was amuch better boxer, punchers aren't what bother Hopkins if that was the case his best wins wouldn't have been against big punchers.

[deanrw]

I agree. Direll and Ward would be your best bets, but the problem is Hopkins would make them lead for the first time. But they would have the best shot. IMO Kessler has no upper body movement at all, pretty robotic. His skills are good, but everything he does Hopkins does better along with give anglen, use his legs more and has better defense, and upperbody movement. Froch would get sonned from start to finish, so woud Abraham.

Exactly! Spot on my friend.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Agree with the Bully here,B-Hop thrives in slow fights,AA starts slow & B-Hop likes to pick fighters apart that way!!Besides the Hop has been in there with bigger punchers & made there power look like nothing!!

'Tis true. Not just Abraham's power, though, but the riddle of the man, there are so many deceptions in the way he fights, I'm seeing it descend into a rougher, scrappier affair than you guys.
Hopkins has all the smarts and tools to crack it, i just don't think it would be as pretty or as straight-up convincing as his beatdown of Pavlik.


I don't see Dirrell having much for Hopkins - Dirrell is, I think, a better athlete than Taylor (a fine athlete himself), but less of a boxer ultimately. Ward's my guy in the 6, so I'll stay off that. Hopkins, I reckon, would make a Charlie out of Kessler.

[deanrw]

As for Pavlik/Williams. People are saying "well if Pavlik can hurt Williams he will win". It is not that simple. For me it is the question of can Williams hurt Pavlik early. See Pavlik hits hard enough that I can pretty much guarantee he will hurt Williams if he hits him enough. My question is can he weather the Williams storm? Williams puts some steam on everything he throws and he throws a lot. If he can hurt Pavlik, Pav will go into a defensive shell and a loss is guaranteed. If he cannot get Pavliks respect, Pav may go right after him like he did to Miranda and make a real fight of it.

So I am questioning Pavlik's durability more than Williams for this fight. If Williams can sting Pavlik, even a bit, it's game over.

[street bully]

As for Pavlik/Williams. People are saying "well if Pavlik can hurt Williams he will win". It is not that simple. For me it is the question of can Williams hurt Pavlik early. See Pavlik hits hard enough that I can pretty much guarantee he will hurt Williams if he hits him enough. My question is can he weather the Williams storm? Williams puts some steam on everything he throws and he throws a lot. If he can hurt Pavlik, Pav will go into a defensive shell and a loss is guaranteed. If he cannot get Pavliks respect, Pav may go right after him like he did to Miranda and make a real fight of it.

So I am questioning Pavlik's durability more than Williams for this fight. If Williams can sting Pavlik, even a bit, it's game over.

I agree. Williams has also been working on putting his legs into his shots now. Winky has a very good cin, and he was stunned once in the later rounds.