Anyone starting to give Crawford a decent chance at Canelo?

[IceTrayDaGang]

It showsed that he is both vulnerable and beatable. Just Judging by his previous performance. He obviously underestimated Scull.

Likewise, he may very well do the same exact thing against Crawford. However, unlike William Scull.

Bud will make Canelo pay for the mistakes he makes inside of that boxing ring

lol.. where was this in his last fight?

[HandsofIron]

A few years ago the idea of the fight seemed absurd.

Now its happening. We know crawford wont LOOK small next to canelo, heck hes taller and hes 180s out of camp.

But Charlo looked the same size or larger and he fought SCARED once he felt canelo's power.


Crawford nearly lost to Madrimov but Madrimov's style is nothing like Canelos, hes very mobile very fast feet.


Canelo has lead feet, he hasnt stopped anyone in his last 7 fights. Hes really slowing down, these are all guys he would have stopped a few years ago.

Nope, Crawford's going to do exactly what Mayweather, Lara and the new guy Scull did, dance on the outside but he won't get the W and I'll tell you why:

The difference here is that Canelo is the money man (face of boxing) with all these endorsements, investments and he still has a few years left in the game compared to Crawford. So the boxing powers that be are not going to let Canelo lose, they have too much money on the line with him right now.

As for the "fight," it's going to be a boring fight similar to the Erislandy Lara match or when Crawford fought Viktor Pistol. Then we're going to hear how Crawford took him to school, outboxed Canelo but was robbed on the scorecards or possibly a draw etc etc.

Crawford can't trade with Canelo because he still is bigger and stronger than him. All it takes is one, right punch from Canelo and Crawford will be put to sleep.

[PerfectJab]

(big piece, I know.)
I rewatched a large part of Canelo – Scull. Yes, I took one for the team..
Now I was particularly looking at Canelo and he was even more terrible than I thought.
Besides that he now has developed some kind of weird looking grandpa walk in the ring, I noticed a few other things as well.
If Crawford/Bomac analyze Canelo they will see the same:

- Canelo now basically has only 2 positions in the ring where he likes throwing punches, because he’s become that slow and his stamina is getting worse and worse.
He hardly throws any punches when in the center of the ring anymore. Scull was standing in front of him a few times and Canelo did nothing. He just waited until he could follow Scull in a slow walking pace unto the ropes. Only then he’ll starts looking to throw.
The other position is when he can put his head against his opponents head, so he can throw hooks and uppercuts (he tried this with Bivol and got embarrased) He also does this in training.
So the current Canelo needs his opponent to either stand still against the ropes or stand still in front of him.

- His defense isn’t elite anymore.

- The few times Scull did throw, he tried to do what Bivol did.
Canelo doesn’t bring his hands back to his face when throwing, so Scull tried to get him in between his punches.
If Canelo throws a double jab you know a straight right is coming. Scull landed flush one time after countering Canelo after his double jab.

- Other that his timing is getting quite poor now, he telegraphs a lot.
Canelo always or for a long time has the habit of taking a huuuge step with the left foot, both for his shovel hooks and his straight. He becomes a sitting duck if he misses. Crawford will probably bait him with this, step back, make him miss and then counter.

Where Crawford can tactically hurt Canelo is also something that Bivol said, after sitting ringside for Canelo – Scull: fighters let Canelo do what he wants to do. If he wants to fight he can fight, if he wants to rest, he can rest.
Bivol didn’t allow this and forced Canelo to fight when he wanted to rest.
If Crawford can mess with Canelo’s rhythm, he will start to struggle with his stamina big time very early I believe.

So, the biggest question marks for me are how/whether Crawford (can) handle the punches if he gets hit and how Crawford’s own stamina will hold up in this weight class.
If both hold up I believe he has big chance of pulling it off.

[SouthpawRight]

It showsed that he is both vulnerable and beatable. Just Judging by his previous performance. He obviously underestimated Scull.

Likewise, he may very well do the same exact thing against Crawford. However, unlike William Scull.

Bud will make Canelo pay for the mistakes he makes inside of that boxing ring

I hope this is what happened

because I want TBud-Alvarez to be a competitive fight

but TC has done exactly that when he gets hit! he comes right back and start brawling and get his lick back. the gamboa fight was an example of this. TC was fortunate that gamboa is a small guy. TC cant afford to do this against 168 canelo.

TBud a smart fighter

I think he knows he could get away with brawling against the much smaller Gamboa

and that defensive discipline will be key against Buff Guy Nelo

Nope, Crawford's going to do exactly what Mayweather, Lara and the new guy Scull did, dance on the outside but he won't get the W and I'll tell you why:

The difference here is that Canelo is the money man (face of boxing) with all these endorsements, investments and he still has a few years left in the game compared to Crawford. So the boxing powers that be are not going to let Canelo lose, they have too much money on the line with him right now.

As for the "fight," it's going to be a boring fight similar to the Erislandy Lara match or when Crawford fought Viktor Pistol. Then we're going to hear how Crawford took him to school, outboxed Canelo but was robbed on the scorecards or possibly a draw etc etc.

Crawford can't trade with Canelo because he still is bigger and stronger than him. All it takes is one, right punch from Canelo and Crawford will be put to sleep.

I don't believe the judges will favor Nelo as much as they used to. He has declined, has limited time, and only has two big fight opponents left TBud and Benavidez

as long as it's a highly competitive fight a rematch would be huge especially if TBud won

Bivol the random Rossiyan-Asian was able to get the decision, so it's possible

(big piece, I know.)
I rewatched a large part of Canelo – Scull. Yes, I took one for the team..
Now I was particularly looking at Canelo and he was even more terrible than I thought.
Besides that he now has developed some kind of weird looking grandpa walk in the ring, I noticed a few other things as well.
If Crawford/Bomac analyze Canelo they will see the same:

- Canelo now basically has only 2 positions in the ring where he likes throwing punches, because he’s become that slow and his stamina is getting worse and worse.
He hardly throws any punches when in the center of the ring anymore. Scull was standing in front of him a few times and Canelo did nothing. He just waited until he could follow Scull in a slow walking pace unto the ropes. Only then he’ll starts looking to throw.
The other position is when he can put his head against his opponents head, so he can throw hooks and uppercuts (he tried this with Bivol and got embarrased) He also does this in training.
So the current Canelo needs his opponent to either stand still against the ropes or stand still in front of him.

- His defense isn’t elite anymore.

- The few times Scull did throw, he tried to do what Bivol did.
Canelo doesn’t bring his hands back to his face when throwing, so Scull tried to get him in between his punches.
If Canelo throws a double jab you know a straight right is coming. Scull landed flush one time after countering Canelo after his double jab.

- Other that his timing is getting quite poor now, he telegraphs a lot.
Canelo always or for a long time has the habit of taking a huuuge step with the left foot, both for his shovel hooks and his straight. He becomes a sitting duck if he misses. Crawford will probably bait him with this, step back, make him miss and then counter.

Where Crawford can tactically hurt Canelo is also something that Bivol said, after sitting ringside for Canelo – Scull: fighters let Canelo do what he wants to do. If he wants to fight he can fight, if he wants to rest, he can rest.
Bivol didn’t allow this and forced Canelo to fight when he wanted to rest.
If Crawford can mess with Canelo’s rhythm, he will start to struggle with his stamina big time very early I believe.

So, the biggest question marks for me are how/whether Crawford (can) handle the punches if he gets hit and how Crawford’s own stamina will hold up in this weight class.
If both hold up I believe he has big chance of pulling it off.

adding to the Alvarez icked off in training conspiracy theory let hope his lack of stamina against Scull was due to slacking roadwork

TBud has always had stamina from what I seen. He turned it up in the championship rounds to make his case against Madrimov

Saul has always been Gasnelo as early as the Trout bout maybe even before it

[BOJACK]

nah crawford is gonna get bodied sorry to say. The size difference is insane between the two.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I hope this is what happened

because I want TBud-Alvarez to be a competitive fight

TBud a smart fighter

I think he knows he could get away with brawling against the much smaller Gamboa

and that defensive discipline will be key against Buff Guy Nelo

I don't believe the judges will favor Nelo as much as they used to. He has declined, has limited time, and only has two big fight opponents left TBud and Benavidez

as long as it's a highly competitive fight a rematch would be huge especially if TBud won

Bivol the random Rossiyan-Asian was able to get the decision, so it's possible
adding to the Alvarez icked off in training conspiracy theory let hope his lack of stamina against Scull was due to slacking roadwork

TBud has always had stamina from what I seen. He turned it up in the championship rounds to make his case against Madrimov

Saul has always been Gasnelo as early as the Trout bout maybe even before it

and you saying Inoue not a smart fighter? lol. that's not the only time TC has done that!! TC is known to get very aggressive as soon as he gets hit flush, he throws everything out and will start attacking his opponent to get back at his opponent. im just saying this is not a smart thing to do against canelo.

[Mushashi]

His best chance is too adopt that Erislandy Lara blueprint. Might even switch to southpaw. Pot shot and flurry before Canelo can get his own back

[SouthpawRight]

If someone is winning a decision, it's gonna be Canelo. We already saw where the judges sway. No amount of ring generalship or pitty pat pat will earn you a round.

This is just mid hearns hagler with decision result

tell that to Bivol who's even more calculated than TB

His best chance is too adopt that Erislandy Lara blueprint. Might even switch to southpaw. Pot shot and flurry before Canelo can get his own back

southpaw makes him more open to Alvarez best shot the right

But TB fights as a lefty 80% of the time anyways

[elfag]

disagree... in fact, when TC gets hit, he likes to come right back right away and try to get his lick back! see the gamboa fight. he cant take flush shot like in the gamboa fight against 168 canelo.

TC doesnt have the legs to move around and survive. he will be even slower at 168. he doesnt have great movements so he will need to fight canelo.

This is a very good point. Crawford can be hit and he has been hit.

kavaliauskas was scammed out of a knockdown by the ref. Crawford was wobbled by him too. Canelo definitely has the power to seriously hurt or KO crawford.


An inside close fight benefits Canelo a lot.

Bivol didnt win just on size he won on excellent distance control with fast legs and a huge reach.


Canelo has a good chin too, crawford will have to win a decision boxing on the outside and controlling distance.

[SouthpawRight]

This is a very good point. Crawford can be hit and he has been hit.

kavaliauskas was scammed out of a knockdown by the ref. Crawford was wobbled by him too. Canelo definitely has the power to seriously hurt or KO crawford.


An inside close fight benefits Canelo a lot.

Bivol didnt win just on size he won on excellent distance control with fast legs and a huge reach.


Canelo has a good chin too, crawford will have to win a decision boxing on the outside and controlling distance.

inside good thing TBud a wrestler who knows clinch game

We’ll find out if 168 TBud feet are anywhere near as fast as Bivol

Bivol has the quickest in these big man classes