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  • #2
    For me right now:
    1. Naoya Inoue
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Terence Crawford
    4. Jesse Rodriguez
    5. Dmitry Bivol

    But if Crawford beats Canelo, he's #1 by far.

    With a win over Canelo, Crawford would become:
    1. The 1st 3 division undisputed champion in the multi-belt era, 5th of all time (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Armstrong, Canzoneri who all did it when there was only 1 champ)

    2. The 3rd 4 division lineal champion in history (Mayweather, Pacquiao)

    3. The 5th 5 division world titlist in history (Hearns, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
    Last edited by famicommander; 05-05-2025, 05:10 PM.
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    • #3
      1.The Cat
      2.The Monster
      3.Bud(inactivity)

      If TC beats Canelo automatically takes #1 spot imo.
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      • #4
        Personal opinion aside


        by 2026
        I think it's either going to be TC or Inoue, depending on how and if they win.


        Canelo is so defensive, I just can't see TC doing much but outpointing him with a razor thin decision.

        Junto X Inoue will be a KO, either way.

        Usyk will be #3-4. Dubois or Parker won't do much for his career.


        After 2025, Inoue still has a couple choices. Stay at 122 and fight Bam.
        or move up to 26 and get the belts.
        *in the case of an upset, Junto and Bam become top candidates.

        TC will retire.

        Usyk got no one else to fight.

        Bivol maybe elevated with a win over Benevidez.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by famicommander View Post
          For me right now:
          1. Naoya Inoue
          2. Oleksandr Usyk
          3. Terence Crawford
          4. Jesse Rodriguez
          5. Dmitry Bivol

          But if Crawford beats Canelo, he's #1 by far.

          With a win over Canelo, Crawford would become:
          1. The 1st 3 division undisputed champion in the multi-belt era, 4th of all time (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Canzoneri who all did it when there was only 1 champ)
          2. The 3rd 4 division lineal champion in history (Mayweather, Pacquiao)
          3. The 5th 5 division world titlist in history (Hearns, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
          Yeah have to agree with you, Inoue is number 1 right now, dude is sensational and what boxing is all about.

          Crawford's been too inactive and just going for the paycheck.

          Not hating on Usyk, he's not bad at all, it's just his competition at Heavyweight hasn't been all that great and it isn't his fault of course, he can only fight who is in front of him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post

            Yeah have to agree with you, Inoue is number 1 right now, dude is sensational and what boxing is all about.

            Crawford's been too inactive and just going for the paycheck.

            Not hating on Usyk, he's not bad at all, it's just his competition at Heavyweight hasn't been all that great and it isn't his fault of course, he can only fight who is in front of him.
            I keep running resumes for my top 4, and each of the top 3 has his own argument. Bam is a future #1, but he's not quite there yet.

            TBRB rankings used, secondary/interim belts ignored

            Terence Crawford:
            W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
            W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
            W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
            W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
            W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
            W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
            W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
            W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
            W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
            W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
            W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
            W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
            W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
            W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
            W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
            W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)

            Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr

            14-0 vs top 10
            9-0 vs top 5
            4-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Crawford was #1)
            11-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
            6-0 vs reigning world titlists
            3-0 in unification fights
            19-0 in world title fights
            6-0 in lineal world championship fights
            41-0-0-0 overall record, 31 KOs

            135: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBO
            140: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            147: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            154: WBA

            3 division lineal world champion
            2 division undisputed world champion
            4 division world titlist

            Notable achievements:
            -One of only nine men to be lineal champion in three weight classes (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Armstrong, Canzoneri, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
            -One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Inoue, Usyk)

            Naoya Inoue:
            W vs #10 Ryoichi Taguchi UD 10 (ftr. WBA/IBF/Ring 108)
            W vs #1 Adrian Hernandez TKO 6 (fmr. and reigning WBC 108)
            W vs #1 Omar Narvaez KO 2 (fmr. WBO 112; reigning WBO 115)
            W vs #8 Kohei Kono TKO 6 (fmr. 2X WBA 112)
            W vs #5 Jamie McDonnell TKO 1 (fmr. IBF 118)
            W vs #5 Juan Carlos Payano KO 1 (fmr. WBA 118)
            W vs #6 Emmanuel Rodriguez KO 2 (reigning and ftr. IBF 118)
            W vs #4 Nonito Donaire UD 12 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; reigning WBA 118; ftr. WBC 118)
            W vs #8 Jason Moloney KO 7 (future WBO 118)
            W vs #2 Nonito Donaire TKO 2 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; WBA 118; reigning WBC 118)
            W vs #8 Paul Butler KO 11 (fmr. IBF 118; reigning WBO 118)
            W vs #1 Stephen Fulton TKO 8 (reigning WBC/WBO 122; ftr. WBC 126)
            W vs #2 Marlon Tapales KO 10 (reigning WBA/IBF 122)
            W vs #3 Luis Nery KO 6 (fmr. WBC 118; WBC 122)
            W vs TJ Doheny TKO 7 (fmr. IBF 122)
            W vs #5 Ramon Cardenas TKO 8

            Other notable victories: Petchbarngborn Kokietgym, Antonio Nieves, Michael Dasmarinas

            15-0 vs top 10
            10-0 vs top 5
            5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Inoue was #1)
            15-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
            8-0 vs reigning world titlists
            6-0 in unification fights
            23-0 in world title fights (not counting WBA Regular)
            7-0 in lineal world championship fights
            30-0-0-0 overall record, 27 KOs

            108: WBC
            112: (none)
            115: WBO
            118: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            122: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed

            2 division lineal world champion
            2 division undisputed world champion
            4 division world titlist

            Notable achievement:
            One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Crawford, Usyk)

            Oleksandr Usyk
            W vs #2 Krzysztof Glowacki UD 12 (reigning and future WBO cruiserweight)
            W vs #10 Marco Huck TKO 10 (fmr. WBO crusierweight)
            W vs #6 Mairis Briedis MD 12 (reigning WBC cruiserweight; future WBO cruiserweight; IBF/Ring/TBRB/lineal cruiserweight)
            W vs #2 Murat Gassiev UD 12 (reigning WBA/IBF cruiserweight)
            W vs Tony Bellew KO 8 (fmr. WBC cruiserweight)
            W vs #1 Anthony Joshua UD 12 (fmr. and reigning WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
            W vs #2 Anthony Joshua SD 12 (fmr. 2X WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
            W vs Daniel Dubois KO 9 (ftr. IBF heavyweight)
            W vs #1 Tyson Fury SD 12 (fmr. WBA/IBF/WBO/2X Ring/2X TBRB, reigning WBC/lineal heavyweight)
            W vs #1 Tyson Fury UD 12 (fmr 2X lineal/TBRB/Ring; WBC; WBO/WBA/IBF)


            Other notable victories: Thabiso Mchunu, Michael Hunter, Derek Chisora

            8-0 vs top 10
            6-0 vs top 5
            5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Usyk was #1)
            10-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
            5-0 vs reigning world titlists
            3-0 in unification fights
            12-0 in world title fights
            4-0 in lineal world championship fights
            23-0-0-0 overall record, 14 KOs

            Cruiserweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            Heavyweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed (plus IBO)

            2 division lineal world champion
            2 division undisputed world champion
            2 division world titlist

            Notable achievement:
            -Usyk is 10-0 in his opponents' home countries and 5-0 on neutral ground, including 3-0 vs the A-side fighter in Saudi Arabia
            -One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Crawford, Inoue)

            Jesse Rodriguez
            W vs #8 Carlos Cuadras UD 12 (fmr. WBC 115)
            W vs #2 Srisaket Sor Rungvisai TKO 8 (fmr WBC 115; lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC 115)
            W vs #1 Sunny Edwards RTD 9 (reigning IBF 112)
            W vs #C Juan Francisco Estrada KO 7 (fmr. WBA/WBO 112; WBA 115; reigning lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC 115)
            W vs #7 Pedro Guevara TKO 3 (fmr. WBC 112)

            Other notable victories: Israel Gonzalez

            5-0 vs top 10
            3-0 vs top 5
            2-0 vs #1 or Champion
            5-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
            2-0 vs reigning world titlists
            1-0 in unification fights
            7-0 in world title fights
            2-0 in lineal world championship fights
            21-0-0-0 overall record, 14 KOs

            1 division lineal world champion
            2 division world titlist

            112: IBF, WBO
            115: WBC; Lineal, TBRB, Ring, WBC​

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            • #7
              I can't give Inoue #1, not yet. The guy he beat was a walk in for the guy Monster was cherry picking. Inoue was 50 to 1 favorite.
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              • #8
                I wish Usyk was more active. His career really slowed down once he got to HW. I guess I can't blame him, due to the rematch clauses and 8-figure purses. I would like to see him face Parker and Kabayel, but I think he'll retire very soon and may not bother with them.






                Last edited by kiaba360; 05-05-2025, 05:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                  I can't give Inoue #1, not yet. The guy he beat was a walk in for the guy Monster was cherry picking. Inoue was 50 to 1 favorite.
                  He was literally the best available opponent.

                  TBRB rankings at 122
                  C. Inoue
                  1. Akhmadaliev - Inoue is fighting him in September
                  2. Tapales - Inoue already knocked him out
                  3. Goodman - already pulled out of the Inoue fight 3 different times
                  4. Nery - Inoue already knocked him out
                  5. Cardenas

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                    I wish Usyk was more active. His career really slowed down once he got to HW. I guess I can't blame him, due to the rematch clauses and 8-figure purses. I would like to see him face Parker and Kabayel, but I think he'll retire very soon.
                    I think he'll at least fight Parker after he whoops Dubois again. Kabayel may have to be content with his interim strap being emailed to a real title, though.

                    I just hope somebody better than Pulev has that WBA trinket at the time Usyk retires. Would be a joke for him to inherit a real title off a win over Charr.

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