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  • Garcia and Haney's best asset was making 135.

    This might be just a bad night for both, but it is difficult to ignore that during 90% of their careers until now they were practically Welterweights/Light Middleweights taking advantage over their physical advantages over super featherweights and lightweights thanks to modern nutrition.

    Now that they lack these certain advantages, it seems difficult to me to see how they thrive against bigger fighters with their limited skillsets.

    Garcia used to capitalize on pull counters with his reach and Haney is pretty much doing what he did tonight against quite shorter fighters ignoring his fight with Loma.



    Last edited by Malvado; 05-02-2025, 09:21 PM.
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    Both are Broners

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    • #3
      Getting outboxed by Rolly is a really bad look.

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      • #4
        Their best skill was being weight bullies

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RuleOfTheSpear View Post
          Their best skill was being weight bullies
          exposing hype jobs and weight bullies is one of the best parts of boxing

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
            Getting outboxed by Rolly is a really bad look.
            All it took for Rolly was to:

            -Be attentive with Ryan's low output punches
            and block the left hook
            -Manage the distance avoiding getting close the ropes.
            -Take the initiative, which the knockdown and power discouraged Garcia.

            Ryan was never a overly active fighter, he tends to do the minimum and manage distance to catch his opponents, after they are hurt he goes all out, that's all he knows how to do. If he doesn't get his way, his opponent likely will control the pace.

            Likely Difficult to do so against boxer puncher who can fight also in the backfoot, even as limited as Rolly is.
            Last edited by Malvado; 05-02-2025, 09:48 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Malvado View Post

              All it took for Rolly was to:

              -Be attentive with Ryan's low output punches
              and block the left hook
              -Manage the distance avoiding getting close the ropes.
              -Take the initiative, which the knockdown and power discouraged Garcia.

              Ryan was never a overly active fighter, he tends to do the minimum and manage distance to catch his opponents, after they are hurt he goes all out, that's all he knows how to do. If he doesn't get his way, his opponent likely will control the pace.

              Likely Difficult to do so against boxer puncher who can fight also in the backfoot, even as limited as Rolly is.
              a severely nerfed Oscar de La Hoya

              but they cant turn Ryan into his Uncle Oscar

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post

                a severely nerfed Oscar de La Hoya

                but they cant turn Ryan into his Uncle Oscar
                Outside of a potent left hook and handspeed. Ryan doesn't have much in common with Golden Boy stylistically. Oscar was quite versatile fighter that his skills allowed him to compete from 130 to 160 despite his stamina issues at his highest weight classes.

                Oscar was also a pretty big super featherweight and lightweight, but at least he frequently fought fighters in his size range after near his debut, if you seen his fights at the start of his career against unbeaten world champions like Giorgio Campanella (5'8), Jimmy Bredahl (5'10), Genaro Hernandez (5'11) and Rafael Ruelas (5'11).

                Only Ruelas was not undefeated, yet that single loss was four years before their fight, having beaten Rocky Lockridge, Jorge Paez, and Darryl Tyson during his 15 win streak. These names might not be as great and recognizable as the bigger profile fights like Camacho, Chavez Sr, Whitaker, Gatti, Trinidad, Quartey, Vargas, Mosley and etc. But they were champions that he stopped nonetheless after he debuted shortly after. Certainly most of them would had been more difficult to beat than Luke Campbell and likely Rolly Romero, yet he stopped all of them quite decidedly.





                Last edited by Malvado; 05-02-2025, 10:30 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Malvado View Post

                  All it took for Rolly was to:

                  -Be attentive with Ryan's low output punches
                  and block the left hook
                  -Manage the distance avoiding getting close the ropes.
                  -Take the initiative, which the knockdown and power discouraged Garcia.

                  Ryan was never a overly active fighter, he tends to do the minimum and manage distance to catch his opponents, after they are hurt he goes all out, that's all he knows how to do. If he doesn't get his way, his opponent likely will control the pace.

                  Likely Difficult to do so against boxer puncher who can fight also in the backfoot, even as limited as Rolly is.
                  Rolly did a great job of keeping his right glove high by his face all night, never lost focus, it was probably the best I have ever seen Rolly box no wild swings with his chin up in the air.
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                  • #10
                    Figure that out already when Garcia was fed bum after bum at LW, total fabrication of a career.

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