Would you say any of the PBC welterweights from the last 10 years or so are hall of famers?

[The D3vil]

No, but I'd put Porter in there if I had a vote.

He, unlike everybody else in his generation was willing to fight anybody & everybody, which it's sad to say, isn't a thing in this generation.

He also has wins over former champions Yordenis Ugas, Danny Garcia, Andre Berto, Pauli Malinaggi, Devon Alexander, & Julio Diaz,

He had razor-thin losses against the best versions of Errol Spence, Keith Thurman, & Kell Brook.

I wouldn't vote for him if he was in any other era, but in THIS era, his career was extraordinary.

[gamesworn]

Spence is not HOF. Like I said, they must meet both my 1 and 2 criteria. Both 1 and 2 must be met because it's a way of confirming their accomplishments and not a mere fluke or some clever matchmaking going on. Sure Spence was in the p4p rankings for a good stretch (2017-2024) but he has no marquee win (a win against a hall of famer or potential hall of famer)

Mikey is not HOF. He was in the p4p rankings (2017-2019) but lacking any win against a hall of famer.
Had he fought and won against Lomachenko, that would've sealed him into the HOF guaranteed.

Obviously there's no stopping other voters from voting Shawn Porter in for "entertainment" reasons but that's them and not me.
Porter was never in the p4p rankings and has no win over a hall of famer.
Danny has 2 wins over a hall of famer in Morales, but lost to every one of his peers, thereby unable to sustain or confirm his accomplishments and ultimately failed to get in the p4p rankings.


Who knows how fighters are voted in these days. Corrales got in despite having no win against a hall of famer.
Interestingly enough, Hatton and Bradley both met my 1 and 2 criteria despite people groaning about their induction.
Hatton beat a hall of famer in Tszyu. Hatton was also in the p4p rankings (2005-2009).
Bradley beat hall of famers in Marquez and Pacquiao (yes ik it's a robbery but the win over Marquez cemented his place). Bradley was also in the p4p rankings (2010-2016).

You can still be in HOF even without beating a single Hall of Famer. Outside of Fame and popularity, they need consistent wins over quality top 10 rank fighters in their division/s, similar to what Hamed achieved during his time.

I do agree with you though, that none of the PBC fighters should get in, but they will get in because of one big reason, being Americans. It is what it is. If IBHOF were Japan based, we'd see more Japanese fighters there.

Your criteria is more of a ATG status, where you have to factor the quality of fighters they defeated. ATGs must defeat actual HOF elite/s to be considered one.