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  • 1Eriugenus
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    #11
    I've heard loads of examples like this. After 3 days without food or, more important, water, you shouldn't even go for a long walk, or play a round of golf, so it is insanity to starve yourself & then expect to fight 10 hard rounds! We need to go back to same day weigh ins.

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      #12
      'You feel weak. You feel like you didn’t train for a fight. You feel like you didn’t even have a camp for a fight. You feel like you’re out of shape. It’s the worst pain I’ve ever felt. The stomach cramps came back, the headache came back, it was a fight for survival and a fight to try to win, at the same time.”

      Yeah, I don't understand why people crash weight because it has to catch up with you if you don't spark your man in the first couple of rounds. One of many things I really admire about Carl Froch is he said he liked to come into camp close to 180 so that camp was all about improving skills & fitness & making 168 was never an issue. By contrast, at the time JCC Jnr held a title at 160 &, it is said, would come into camp around 200! So JCC Jnr's camp was purely around making weight by all means possible &, no surprise, he had issues when he got in the ring.

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        #13
        Originally posted by SteveM
        Originally posted by SteveM

        This is he answer - only the IBF has done it which is why many fighters won't go for an IBF ranking
        the solution is a 2nd weigh-in on fight day with a re-hydration limit and if done for all fights then there'd be no monsters 2 weight classes above you as they'd be forced to move up divisions too.
        ​This would result in many fighters punching power being exposed

        When he was still fighting at 168 Mexican David used to walk around at 225

        Once he moved up to 175 and fought opponents closer to his size he no longer had monster punching power

        Fighters who barely cut weight Floyd Bivol et al would be extra dominant as no opponent would have a major size advantage
        Originally posted by 1Eriugenus
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        Originally posted by 1Eriugenus
        I've heard loads of examples like this. After 3 days without food or, more important, water, you shouldn't even go for a long walk, or play a round of golf, so it is insanity to starve yourself & then expect to fight 10 hard rounds! We need to go back to same day weigh ins.
        You feel weak. You feel like you didn’t train for a fight. You feel like you didn’t even have a camp for a fight. You feel like you’re out of shape. It’s the worst pain I’ve ever felt. The stomach cramps came back, the headache came back, it was a fight for survival and a fight to try to win, at the same time.”

        Yeah, I don't understand why people crash weight because it has to catch up with you if you don't spark your man in the first couple of rounds. One of many things I really admire about Carl Froch is he said he liked to come into camp close to 180 so that camp was all about improving skills & fitness & making 168 was never an issue. By contrast, at the time JCC Jnr held a title at 160 &, it is said, would come into camp around 200! So JCC Jnr's camp was purely around making weight by all means possible &, no surprise, he had issues when he got in the ring.
        water is important Muhammad permits Islams at war to skip ramadan

        Timmeh was a massive weight cutter then AND STILL feather fisted rofl!

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        • SteveM
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          #14
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          This would result in many fighters punching power being exposed

          When he was still fighting at 168 Mexican David used to walk around at 225

          Once he moved up to 175 and fought opponents closer to his size he no longer had monster punching power

          Fighters who barely cut weight Floyd Bivol et al would be extra dominant as no opponent would have a major size advantage
          water is important Muhammad permits Islams at war to skip ramadan

          Timmeh was a massive weight cutter then AND STILL feather fisted rofl!
          this is perhaps the main reason that the promoters and other belt orgs don't advocate for 2nd day weigh ins - because there'd be less knockouts and KOs are what most fans want - case in point - look how many posters on here said the Beterbiev-Bivol ights weren't entertaining. And also - look how HW division is the most popular

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          • SteveM
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            #15
            Originally posted by brankobugarski

            or else the fight night weigh ...
            No, because just one weigh-in on fight night would see every one just cutting like crazy as they do now but even less time to re-hydrate

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              #16
              Originally posted by SteveM

              this is perhaps the main reason that the promoters and other belt orgs don't advocate for 2nd day weigh ins - because there'd be less knockouts and KOs are what most fans want - case in point - look how many posters on here said the Beterbiev-Bivol ights weren't entertaining. And also - look how HW division is the most popular
              Lots of loss of money from fights being cancelled

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              • SteveM
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                #17
                Originally posted by MulaKO

                Lots of loss of money from fights being cancelled
                as well of course - when a fighter signs a contract with a promoter and then a fight date - but then picks up a non-serious injury - the promoter pressures them to continue with the fight telling them it's all part of the fight game

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  as well of course - when a fighter signs a contract with a promoter and then a fight date - but then picks up a non-serious injury - the promoter pressures them to continue with the fight telling them it's all part of the fight game
                  I was thinking more in line with not respecting the weight
                  Coming in overweight

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SteveM

                    the solution is a 2nd weigh-in on fight day with a re-hydration limit and if done for all fights then there'd be no monsters 2 weight classes above you as they'd be forced to move up divisions too.
                    The IBF already does this and i like it.

                    there would be so many frauds exposed as most weight bullies couldnt compete against guys their own sizes (latest example being tszyu).
                    it would weed out many fighters relying entirely on strength and punch resistance. and i like ibf champions the most because they tend to have the better skills (murtazaliev, ennis, etc.)

                    there's a reason so many other champions either avoid the IBF or choose to unify with the IBF as the last belt.

                    if this is enforced across all orgs, you will see a proliferation of skill-based strat(s) as opposed to the default brute force.

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                    • hitmanjosh
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                      #20
                      Head weighin in @ 50 Lbs and his ego always at 100+ of course it's difficult. GTFOH! BLEG4930.jpg

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