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    Comments Thread For: Melvin Jerusalem targets unification rematch with Oscar Collazo after second Shigeoka win

    The WBC strawweight champion says he wants to avenge his seventh round TKO loss to the unbeaten Puerto Rican back in 2023,
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  • famicommander
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    #2
    TBRB:
    1. Collazo
    2. Jerusalem

    Ring:
    C. Collazo
    1. Jerusalem

    ESPN:
    1. Collazo
    2. Jerusalem

    WBA, WBO, WBC, Ring, TBRB titles on the line

    This would crown the first lineal world champion at strawweight since Ricardo Lopez abdicated his throne in October 1999.

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    • Dorrian_Grey
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      #3
      Originally posted by famicommander
      TBRB:
      1. Collazo
      2. Jerusalem

      Ring:
      C. Collazo
      1. Jerusalem

      ESPN:
      1. Collazo
      2. Jerusalem

      WBA, WBO, WBC, Ring, TBRB titles on the line

      This would crown the first lineal world champion at strawweight since Ricardo Lopez abdicated his throne in October 1999.
      And yet Taduran is probably better than Jerusalem anyway since he beat the better Shigeoka brother in better fashion and is more proven at the world-level.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Dorrian_Grey

        And yet Taduran is probably better than Jerusalem anyway since he beat the better Shigeoka brother in better fashion and is more proven at the world-level.
        Unlike Yudai where I expected him to lose the rematch (and indeed lost), I actually have a feeling that Ginjiro will avenge his loss against Taduran next month.

        Yudai's first loss to Jerusalem felt like it was a loss due to difference in skills and tactics, but Taduran was more of a freak accidental win if that makes sense.

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        • famicommander
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dorrian_Grey

          And yet Taduran is probably better than Jerusalem anyway since he beat the better Shigeoka brother in better fashion and is more proven at the world-level.
          How is Taduran more proven at the world level?

          Taduran vs world title winning opposition:
          L vs Wanheng Menayothin UD 12
          D vs Daniel Valladares TD 4
          L vs Rene Mark Cuarto UD 12
          L vs Rene Mark Cuarto TD 7
          W vs Ginjiro Shigeoka TKO 9

          Melvin Jerusalem vs world title winning opposition:
          W vs Florante Condes MD 8
          L vs Wanheng Menayothin UD 12
          W vs Masataka Taniguchi TKO 2
          L vs Oscar Collazo RTD 7
          W vs Yudai Shigeoka SD 12
          W vs Yudai Shigeoka UD 12

          Both guys also have one loss to non-title winning opposition.

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            #6
            Originally posted by famicommander
            TBRB:
            1. Collazo
            2. Jerusalem

            Ring:
            C. Collazo
            1. Jerusalem

            ESPN:
            1. Collazo
            2. Jerusalem

            WBA, WBO, WBC, Ring, TBRB titles on the line

            This would crown the first lineal world champion at strawweight since Ricardo Lopez abdicated his throne in October 1999.
            exactly. collazo - jerusalem is the most important fight in boxing. no other division is without a lineal champion for so long since naoya filled a vacancy at bantamweight.
            obviously, i don't care about stars, promoters, broadcasters, ppv buys and purses.

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            • Elheath
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              #7
              Now that Yudai announced that he plans tomove up to 108, I'm hoping that Collazo vs Jerusalem gets made for summer while Ginjiro gets revenge against Taduran next month and they end up fighting for undisputed at the end of the year Riyadh season.

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                #8
                I hope they can get this fight made. Should be a good scrap.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  How is Taduran more proven at the world level?

                  Taduran vs world title winning opposition:
                  L vs Wanheng Menayothin UD 12
                  D vs Daniel Valladares TD 4
                  L vs Rene Mark Cuarto UD 12
                  L vs Rene Mark Cuarto TD 7
                  W vs Ginjiro Shigeoka TKO 9

                  Melvin Jerusalem vs world title winning opposition:
                  W vs Florante Condes MD 8
                  L vs Wanheng Menayothin UD 12
                  W vs Masataka Taniguchi TKO 2
                  L vs Oscar Collazo RTD 7
                  W vs Yudai Shigeoka SD 12
                  W vs Yudai Shigeoka UD 12

                  Both guys also have one loss to non-title winning opposition.
                  Because Taduran ought to have gotten the nod over both Cuarto and Valladares. Jerusalem was pretty lucky to get the decision over Yudai in either match imo, both those fights were very close, more so the rematch admittedly.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Elheath
                    Unlike Yudai where I expected him to lose the rematch (and indeed lost), I actually have a feeling that Ginjiro will avenge his loss against Taduran next month.

                    Yudai's first loss to Jerusalem felt like it was a loss due to difference in skills and tactics, but Taduran was more of a freak accidental win if that makes sense.
                    I love watching Ginjiro fight but I'm very wary of how his rematch will go against Taduran considering how badly he was beaten the first time around. I hope it was a case of overlooking an opponent or having an off night because I'd hate to see Ginjiro squander his talent with two back-to-back, punishing losses against a heavy-hitter so early in his career. I think Yudai and Jerusalem are on a pretty similar level quite honestly considering how close their fights were but Jerusalem's style is just harder for Yudai to deal with and appeals to the judges a bit more.

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