TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[djtmal]

You keep leaving out why he went to 0 days-

He went to zero days because he didn't want the fight.

Did the exact same move with Winky Wright when Wright agreed to his terms he came back and wanted a ridiculous purse split, killing the negotiations

[The Big Dunn]

You leaving out that it was illegal, and comes three weeks after the fight ended.

The commission didn’t reach that conclusion. That is why I left it out. It did post it came after their review/investigation. I should’ve said 3 weeks later.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac gave rematches to guys he pummeled with half their faces hanging off.
Floyd had a controversial win over pac, it don't matter how bad pac was robbed.
No, floyd isn't better than pac, in same way turpin isn't better than srr. And schmelling isn't better than louis.

In fact nobody who beat pac is better than.pac, be it sinsuurat, morales, bradley, horn, ugas or floyd

No he didn’t. He lost to Morales. Drew with JMM. Got robbed in the Bradley fight. He did rematch Barrera who he beat. He refused a Shane rematch.

You come as a mentally challenged pole smoker posting 10-2, 10-2, 9-3 is a controversial win.

louis is as older than schmelling and out of his prime. Just like Ali and Spinks. We know this is why the historically better boxers lost. They weren’t better . It was the context of the fight.

Floyd v Manny is not the same context. Floyd was older they were both out of prime. Floyd is just better. Always was.

I will agree with everyone but Floyd and maybe JMM.

[The Big Dunn]

What could they impossibly investigate 3 weeks after the fight ended. The dirty deed had already been done.

There were no reports that Floyd was dehydrated prior to the fight. All this new info came months later.

Take it up with the commission. They investigated . Gave a TUE. Just like they investigated if Manny needed Toradol and said no because it was clear he was trying to cheat.

[The Big Dunn]

Well if he went from 14 days to 0 days then he don't want the fight.

Hold Floyd accountable.

Yes we all know why he did- Manny kept refusing 14 days then gave a fake acceptance to save face after Floyd and his team took the offer off the table because of Manny’s shenanigans and BS .

Dont forget that part.

[The Big Dunn]

He agreed to 14 days cutoff bottom line. After he agreed Floyd said no zero cutoff.

Why blatantly lie about that? The facts are there.

You keep defending Manny for ducking. Stop that. If you wanted the fight earlier you should place blame with Manny for his actions.

Is he one of Floyd’s dancers at girl collection such that his actions are controlled by Floyd? You sure treat him like one when it serves your argument.

When you grow up you will realize men are responsible for their actions.

Manny played his cards the way he did. You celebrate that in some cases ( derp Manny made way more than $40 mil he got what he wanted derp) then you pretend it didn’t happen when it blocked the fight ( it’s ok to turn down $40 mil, the offers are fake. Etc)

Pathetic.

[The Big Dunn]

Eh, not really. I don’t think you have,

You haven’t acknowledged that we know categorically what Floyd’s weight was for the Pacquaio fight and we know he didn’t cut weight for it even though you’ve previously tried to say that we don’t know.

You haven’t addressed the fact that there is not one logical reason Floyd would need an IV of that nature.

You haven’t addressed the very clear shadiness and flat out rule breaking by both Floyd and USADA after the illegal IV was discovered.

Consistency is key here, and just in life in general.

One thing is for sure, Crawford leaving off Pacquaio on a list on the basis of potential PED use and including Floyd is a very blatant double standard.

I don’t have to. We also know weight isn’t a major factor in dehydration. Vomitting, poor Fluid intake, heavy physical activity, etc. you can dehydrate at any weight.

For example I read dark urine is a symptom of being dehydrated. Remember that root beer colored piss.

So again, you make solid points. But that doesn’t mean you are correct. As I said I see your point. You say he’s suspect. Ok we disagree.

That isn’t a double standard. I think he knows dehydration is a real possibility.

[djtmal]

Why blatantly lie about that? The facts are there.

You keep defending Manny for ducking. .

I am not lying or defending anything.

Floyd wanted 14 day ost cutoff. When Manny said yes Floyd moved the goalposts to zero cutoff.

Apparently Floyd didn't want the fight.

[djtmal]

Yes we all know why he did- Manny kept refusing 14 days

He ok'd 14 days refused 0 days and Floyd was happy to walk away because he got the outcome he was looking for because he didn't want a fight in 2009

[djtmal]

For example I read dark urine is a symptom of being dehydrated. Remember that root beer colored piss.

y.

This thread got this excuse makers full attention. He even doing reading