TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[The Big Dunn]

Well those are the facts. Manny agreed to a 14 day cutoff, then Floyd moved the goalposts to 0 is the truth

You keep leaving out why he went to 0 days- because Manny initially refused the offer. The BS and refusing caused the situation.

[The Big Dunn]

Dude you were already fact checked on all your excuses by a Floyd boy who normally sides with you.

Floyd was illegal and extremely suspect for masking peds. It took Crawford opening up his mouth about Manny to remind us how suspect Floyd was when the story first hit.

Its really nothing to be mad about Manny
getting a points loss to Floyd past his prime. Especially since Floyd should have been disqualified for using illegal substances.

Manny was the guy pressing the action, trying to make the fight, while Floyd was running grabbing and holding for 12 rounds. The general public was probably pissed that they shelled out 100 bucks for such a lackluster event

A loss is a loss. Accept it.

[The Big Dunn]

You talking out your azz now.

Ost wasn't even a common thing for boxing matches in 2009 Manny wasn't some no name Floyd could boss around technically could have said no to all of it but tried to make a fair negotiation.

When Floyd moved the goalposts to 0, then him his pops, etc did the Manny’s on peds smear campaign, then it was more personal, got sued for defamation, quickly settled out of court, and stuck to making false offers until they was certain Manny had declined.

Again you’re defending Manny ducking. Manny was a challenger and got treated as such. Why does the negotiation have to be fair to him?

Manny caused that by refusing to agree to 14 days. You’re defending that then hypocritically blaming Floyd.

Now you’re defending Manny by calling the offers as false. Lmfao.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Please show how any statement or opinion of a Floyd fan impacts his actual health.

how do you know about his health tho? how do you know that he was really dehydrated? YOU don't.

what we DO know is floyd's weigh in weight for a 147 fight. he is usually right at 147 or below.

what we DO know is that Floyd has been fighting in the 147 division for years before the pac fight.

so nothing you are saying is making sense but just a bunch of excuses.

[IceTrayDaGang]

So you are not able to show how a Floyd fans opinion impacts his health. More faulty logic applied by you just to denigrate Floyd beating Manny by such a wide margin.

Instead you pivot to question no one can answer so you can again use faulty logic.

and YOU cant show me anything on his health that would require him to use an illegal IV!!

[IceTrayDaGang]

I think Floyd is one of the hardest trainers ever so no I don’t think he would train any harder for Pacquaio than he would anyone else. That’s Floyd’s M.O, outwork everyone else.

Why are we ignoring that we KNOW his weight? We KNOW he was 150.5 lbs 30 days out from the Pacquaio fight, don’t we? That’s a fact not an opinion. So we KNOW he didn’t cut any weight for that fight, nor any of his WW fights. So this needs to be established and not pretend like we don’t know when we categorically do know.

So with the established, what logical reason could anyone possibly come to whereby Floyd needs a banned IV a day before the fight? I will tell you, there isn’t one, it doesn’t exist.

I think this needs to acknowledged, if Pacquaio was caught using that exact same IV I’m quite sure with the standard he’s held to he would be considered 100% guilty of what is at the absolute least extremely suspect behaviour.

This doesn’t prove Floyd used PED’s but let me know tell you, it strongly points to it. There’s no other logical way to look at it if we are to be honest about the situation.

bumping this post up that Dunn is purposely ignoring because he has no answer for it.

[The Big Dunn]

Manny agreed to 14 days and Floyd changed to 0.

Floyd didn’t want the fight.

So I guess Winky Wright and Margarito were wrong when Floyd walked away from the table those times too.

Hold your boy Floyd accountable for something will you.

He's his own boss until it actually time to hold himself accountable like a boss

You are being completely disingenuous. Manny agreed once it was taken off the table because he didn’t agree in real time.

In any business arrangement, If you refuse an offer and then say you will agree to it once it’s taken off the table, that is just BS. You know this but will defend Manny because you are a pole smoking fan of his.

Dont pivot to something else because Manny is at fault.

I did hold him accountable. He made an offer. Manny refused.

Your defense of Manny ducking is rooted based on he didn’t treat Manny like he was something special. So what?

Manny was just an another challenger. He didn’t get treated specially. So Manny decided not to agree and fight others.

He repeated the same thing with the $40 mil offer only that time it blew up in his face.

Sorry dude but Floyd isn’t required to treat Manny like you and his felatious fan base wanted.

[The Big Dunn]

bumping this post up that Dunn is purposely ignoring because he has no answer for it.

I responded to it already.

[The Big Dunn]

and YOU cant show me anything on his health that would require him to use an illegal IV!!

Yes I can- the TUE given to him by the commission after they reviewed and investigated his claim of dehydration.

come on dude stop it.

[The Big Dunn]

how do you know about his health tho? how do you know that he was really dehydrated? YOU don't.

what we DO know is floyd's weigh in weight for a 147 fight. he is usually right at 147 or below.

what we DO know is that Floyd has been fighting in the 147 division for years before the pac fight.

so nothing you are saying is making sense but just a bunch of excuses.

Huh. I never claimed I did.

I posted Floyd said he was dehydrated and the commission granted the TUE after their review/investigation.

The commission granting the TUE makes sense. You are just trying to worm around that.