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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    We can agree to disagree given he got a TUE.
    I mean, still, even with the retroactive TUE, that was given nearly 3 weeks after the fight happened, which in itself is weird, I'm confused as to why Floyd would even need a IV of that amount? Which is banned by WADA, that's a fact.

    He doesn't cut weight so, it's not making sense to me from any angle.

    Regardless, it's suspect at best.

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    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      He got exposed using illegal iv's with masking agents. Talking about he was dehydrated.

      No telling how long he was doing that
      Here you go just flat out lying again, you lost years ago because that's all you do is lie, youre the punching bag around here, knocked out so many times that now you lie constantly and when proven wrong you go left field again and start more BS, your the village idiot,

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



        The truth is Manny refused testing. Then He turned down $40 mil (no PPV)
        These Floyd boys have excuses up the Ying yang.

        What was the excuse for backing out of fight with Margarito
        Winky Wright
        What was the excuse for ducking out of the welterweight division for two years only to come back and cherrypick a lightweight
        Ducking Khan who won your bogus who do I fight next contest
        What was the excuse for ducking Thurman who only was your mandatory for onteen years

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



          Speaking of video, Manny finally took the fight after the video where Floyd punked him in Miami at the Heat game.
          After that dismal Madonna 2 fight where they overpaid him 30 million, Floyd couldn't duck Manny no longer and tracked him down like when he running in the ring.

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            He didn't "pop" for an illegal IV because you can't pop for something like that but he did use an illegal IV though.

            It's not a good look.
            He absolutely used an illegal IV for substances that can be used as masking agents

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

              We can agree to disagree given he got a TUE.
              An interviewer with some cojones questioned your boy about that whole illegal IV situation and your boy was hemming and hawing like crazy. Passed the questions off to Ellerbe. Guilty as f""k

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              • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                He absolutely used an illegal IV for substances that can be used as masking agents
                No he didnt 750 ml cannot mask anything, you lying again, your the village idiot getting rag dolled again and the desperation in you is easy to see, must be that flat head you have that makes less space for brain cells.

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                • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                  He absolutely used an illegal IV for substances that can be used as masking agents
                  You don't even know what or how masking agents work though so I'm not sure why you're even commenting as if you do.

                  But to educate you and others he used an IV, which in itself is not illegal, however the amount that was used is what's banned by WADA thus illegal.

                  The substances used were Saline (salt water) and Vitamin C which are not banned masking agents. Examples of banned masking agents would be amiloride or chlortalidone or metolazone and a long list of others.

                  Whilst saline is not a "masking agent" on paper (because it's just water) the reason why what Floyd did was illegal and suspect is because the amount of saline (water) that was used in the IV can be used as a diuretic to flush out potential PEDs that are in his system thus in other words used to mask/hide the use of the PEDs.

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                  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    No he didnt 750 ml cannot mask anything, you lying again, your the village idiot getting rag dolled again and the desperation in you is easy to see, must be that flat head you have that makes less space for brain cells.
                    It absolutely can.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      It absolutely can.
                      Not if your tested before and after with negative.
                      Can you furnish proof that 750ml in a 150-pound person can mask something? Ive searched a lot for actual hard documented proof and I cant find anything, as Ive said many times in here Ive given 70lb greyhound 2000ml for dehydration, 750 ml is such a light dose, I believe Armstrong was using way over 2000 ml. Recently I was up the hospital and they said I was mildly dehydrated they gave me a bag 1000ml.

                      Just to add I ran it through AI just to see what it would come back with.

                      I understand you're asking about whether 750ml of saline IV fluids could mask performance-enhancing drug (PED) use in a 150lb male. While I can provide some general information about this topic, I should first emphasize that I'm not a medical professional, and questions about drug testing would be best directed to a healthcare provider or anti-doping specialist.

                      From a general scientific perspective, IV saline is sometimes used in attempts to dilute urine and blood to reduce the concentration of prohibited substances. However, several factors affect whether this approach could effectively "mask" PEDs:
                      1. Many modern drug tests don't just look for the drug itself but also for metabolites and biological markers that indicate tampering.
                      2. 750ml is a relatively low volume of fluid compared to total body water (a 150lb person has roughly 42 liters of total body water).
                      3. Anti-doping agencies often test for abnormal hydration levels through specific gravity and other biomarkers.
                      4. The effectiveness would vary greatly depending on:
                        • The specific PED in question
                        • How long before testing the saline was administered
                        • The testing methods being used
                        • Individual metabolism factors
                      Last edited by Roadblock; 04-02-2025, 05:25 PM.

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