TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[IceTrayDaGang]

No I didn't. I can't explain that in a way that makes it easier to understand.



In response to the position that working with a S&C coach linked to PED's being evidence for someone being a drug cheat which it's NOT.

For Marquez, or Pacquaio.




I have literally mentioned that IN THIS THREAD you moron



Because it is his opinion. He's entitled to it.

That doesn't change the fact he has nothing to substantiate it.





Pick and chose WHERE?

I couldn't be more consistent.

Working with S&C coach linked to PEDs - NOT evidence for someone using PEDs. That's across the board, for Marquez, Pacquaio and every one else.

Someone having an opinion that someone used PEDs - Nothing more than an opinion, they're entitled to it.

What am I picking and choosing on?

so you went back on your words then? so pac is not sus anymore working with ariza?

[IceTrayDaGang]

I have never once denied that. It quite literally IS just that, an opinion. Which everyone is entitled to.

That doesn't change the fact, as I pointed out, IN THAT THREAD, and now again in this one, that that is not evidence for someone being on PEDs. Which is what the position was, to which I responded to explain how it wasn't. Which was the entire point of contention. I'm more than happy for someone to have the opinion Marquez used PEDs, or anyone for that matter.

I'm baffled that you are that dumb that you can't seem to grasp something that is beyond simple.

you went on for pages, bringing up ariza saying that if they are going to accused marquez of cheating because he linked up with memo then they should treat pac the same for hooking up with ariza... why the need to bring all that up if it's just their opinion? YOU got triggered that a manny fan was accusing marquez.

[IronDanHamza]

so then why the need to go on for pages with the other poster who was accusing marquez of being a cheater? that's just his opinion.

Are you retarded? Are you not reading what I'm writing? Or are you reading it or just so thick that you're not understanding it?

Yes his OPINION is totally fine, he's entitled to it.

The point of contention, was the idea that there is evidence Marquez used PED's when there is not.

why you got so triggered that you brought up ariza? the same ariza that floyd hired in 2015.

I brought up Ariza in DIRECT RESPONSE to the point of contention which was working with someone linked to PED's is NOT evidence that someone used PEDs.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Are you retarded? Are you not reading what I'm writing? Or are you reading it or just so thick that you're not understanding it?

Yes his OPINION is totally fine, he's entitled to it.

The point of contention, was the idea that there is evidence Marquez used PED's when there is not.




I brought up Ariza in DIRECT RESPONSE to the point of contention which was working with someone linked to PED's is NOT evidence that someone used PEDs.

that's his opinion!!!!!! just like how you have yours!!

[IronDanHamza]

so you went back on your words then? so pac is not sus anymore working with ariza?

I have literally never once said that, ever.

It is the exact opposite of what I was saying about that.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I have literally never once said that, ever.

It is the exact opposite of what I was saying about that.

Working with S&C coach linked to PEDs - NOT evidence for someone using PEDs. That's across the board, for Marquez, Pacquaio and every one else.

the other poster feel that marquez cheated when he linked up with memo. that's HIS OPINION.

[IronDanHamza]

that's his opinion!!!!!! just like how you have yours!!

Erm no.

There is no demonstrable evidence that Marquez or Pacquaio ever used PEDs. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

[IronDanHamza]

Working with S&C coach linked to PEDs - NOT evidence for someone using PEDs. That's across the board, for Marquez, Pacquaio and every one else.

the other poster feel that marquez cheated when he linked up with memo. that's HIS OPINION.

Yes that's his opinon.

That doesn't change the fact that that is not evidence for someone using PEDs.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Erm no.

There is no demonstrable evidence that Marquez or Pacquaio ever used PEDs. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

so the other poster feel that marquez cheated when he linked up with memo. that's HIS OPINION.

[IronDanHamza]

you went on for pages, bringing up ariza saying that if they are going to accused marquez of cheating because he linked up with memo then they should treat pac the same for hooking up with ariza...

Precisely.

It's one or the other, you can't have both.

why the need to bring all that up if it's just their opinion? YOU got triggered that a manny fan was accusing marquez.

I legitimately cannot explain it any easier that the point of contention was the idea that that was EVIDENCE, when it objectively is not.