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  • #31
    Props to Parker for saving his career, and then exceeding any heights he has ever reached short of winning a title, however, that's not the fight the fans want to see, it's not going to sell. Usyk and DD in London would sell, sell on PPV and the gate, this is a no brainer

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bob View Post

      The problem is the modern shorts.
      I watched Foreman Frazier earlier, the waist band is an inch wide so you can phisically see where's legal. We're all built different & these 6 inch belts are half way to the chest on some.

      & it wasn't low...... From one angle xD
      What angle, directly overhead? Usyk had his navel showing at the top of the shorts multiple times in the fight, and I've heard from people who were in the dressing room that Dubois was told that the entire belt line would be considered low, in accordance with the rules. And Russ Anber and others said they heard contact with the cup. There's a reason he and his corner didn't even make a pro forma appeal during the fight.

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      • #33
        I think Parker has earned it plus I think it's the more interesting match.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by brankobugarski View Post

          I would say the first fight with Zhang cracked Joyce's chin. The second fight obliterated it so it can never be put together again.
          While Zhang cracked it, I believe all of the shots he took from other hard hitters like Dubois and Parker softened it up.

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          • #35
            It's a close call and I take all the opinions above this one into consideration, and they all make sense.
            Since he grew into a heavyweight, he's fought just ONCE per year (!!!) except for last year when he edged Fury in May and December.

            If Usyk had the mentality of Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali, he would ask Turki Al-Sheikh to line up Parker for May, Dubois for August and Kabayel for December.

            Some might call that insane, but if Usyk wants to be an all-time great in the estimation of the people who really know the sport, and get out safe before 39; that's the path.

            Remember also, that the Two of the three leading Heavyweights of the outgoing era who he's beaten (all 4 times by razor decisions), were both coming in for a landing when he got em'.

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            • #36
              Why is DDD even on the list. He needs to fight Parker first, as was planned.

              For Usyk, I say Parker and then Kabayel. Kabayel has the best shot at beating Usyk imo. And Parker deserves a shot. So give Parker his shot and if/when Usyk wins, clean up with Kabayel or let him reign as the new.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                It's a close call and I take all the opinions above this one into consideration, and they all make sense.
                Since he grew into a heavyweight, he's fought just ONCE per year (!!!) except for last year when he edged Fury in May and December.

                If Usyk had the mentality of Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali, he would ask Turki Al-Sheikh to line up Parker for May, Dubois for August and Kabayel for December.

                Some might call that insane, but if Usyk wants to be an all-time great in the estimation of the people who really know the sport, and get out safe before 39; that's the path.

                Remember also, that the Two of the three leading Heavyweights of the outgoing era who he's beaten (all 4 times by razor decisions), were both coming in for a landing when he got em'.
                Say what? Oleksandr came up from cruiserweight and you're complaining that he won fights by decision in the heavyweight division? You should be asking why the big guys living in the glow of media attention and rolling in cash and luxury soft touches, couldn't batter Oleksandr into the nearest hospital. Then you complain about once a year fights, which regularly occur in boxing and Oleksandr defied this to beat Tyson Fury twice in a year (May and December 2024).

                Also, how do you know who Oleksandr is lining up? I don't know why he is still fighting, he deserves respect. I will respect him if he retires and respect him if he continues fighting. Perhaps he is fighting on to give money to the Ukrainian army or rebuild hospitals or schools or homes or care for cemeteries full of children in a devastated home land.
                Last edited by Pulmonary Embolii; 03-25-2025, 07:25 PM.
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                • #38
                  Dubois deserves it. A sick miscall.

                  Miller and Joshua > Bakole and Zhang.

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                  • #39
                    Usyk already beat DDD so id go with Big Joe Parker.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by fistandfury View Post
                      Props to Parker for saving his career, and then exceeding any heights he has ever reached short of winning a title, however, that's not the fight the fans want to see, it's not going to sell. Usyk and DD in London would sell, sell on PPV and the gate, this is a no brainer
                      The fans definitely want to see Parker v Usyk. It will sell heaps. Usyk v Dubois would probably not be in London.

                      Grow a brain champ!

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