Comments Thread For: Daniel Dubois or Joseph Parker? Determining who Oleksandr Usyk should face next

[Bob]

I wish Usyk would just retire. He beat all the A players and now we are arguing which of the B players should get a shot. He already beat Dubois with ease and he is leading the pack.

Personally i think Kabayel is. He destroyed Zhang where as Parker survived against the lowest volume puncher in the division.

[Bob]

But they both found the way to come back which is fascanating.

No that's how boxing has always been until this constant rematchroom generation holding the belts hostage.

[JeBron Lamez]

"Dubois-Parker would have been one of those nice things. But fate intervened, we couldn’t have it"

Maybe not right now but it's 2025 & former HW champion Parker's 33, modern elite sports science says him & Dubois should be able to have a credible fight any time in the next 2 years.

[SUBZER0ED]

But they both found the way to come back which is fascanating.

It is quite fascinating two-fold. Both DDD and Parker were outgunned by the seemingly iron-chinned Joyce, yet both are now in heavy contention for a championship fight vs Usyk. And though they were beaten by Joe, it can be argued that their efforts against him helped break down that iron chin and made him vulnerable vs Zhang.

[Bob]

I think ddd and parker should fight. When someone gets injured, you reschedule don't you?
Other than that, I know usyk would like ddd I'm sure, but in all fairness Parker should get usyk, otherwise ddd gets rewarded for pulling out of fight? And usyk fights kabayel, and ddd too at some point.
That's 3 fights for usyk, and then retire as 2nd GOAT coming, alongside Ali

Joe Louis is the goat son. Ali transcended the sport.

[brankobugarski]

It is quite fascinating two-fold. Both DDD and Parker were outgunned by the seemingly iron-chinned Joyce, yet both are now in heavy contention for a championship fight vs Usyk. And though they were beaten by Joe, it can be argued that their efforts against him helped break down that iron chin and made him vulnerable vs Zhang.

I would say the first fight with Zhang cracked Joyce's chin. The second fight obliterated it so it can never be put together again.

[Bob]

The only reason Dubois is even in the conversation is that fans don't understand the low blow line is defined by the navel, not the shorts. He was beaten comprehensively every second he wasn't fouling (and he threw MANY low blows in that fight) and then got stopped by a jab. I'll grant Hrgovic was a good win, but there shouldn't have been an interim title on the line then to begin, and then his first title defense after being upgraded by email was another guy who's already lost to the real champ twice. The IBF should have granted that exception since he'd already lost (and how does beating drug cheat Miller get you back into the title picture to get the Hrgovic fight?).

Beating Dubois again doesn't really do anything for Usyk other than give him back the belt he never should have lost. If he wants to build his resume, Parker is a better name. And Kabayel looks like he'll be the next big thing after Usyk retires if he doesn't get to fight.

The problem is the modern shorts.
I watched Foreman Frazier earlier, the waist band is an inch wide so you can phisically see where's legal. We're all built different & these 6 inch belts are half way to the chest on some.

& it wasn't low...... From one angle xD

[Goatintheboat]

Chisora is the IBF mandatory. Get it made. No bigger fight for his 50th

[landotter]

Money Quote:

"Boxing is the dog that rolls in another dog’s mess the instant you’re finished giving it a bath."

Bahahaha!
Dogs are great, but even a cat won't do that.

I do not know how pooches find the ONE GROSS THING in the yard or on a walk to dive into, but they do, bless their hearts.....

[landotter]

Usyk obviously is not going to hang it up, even though it is the perfect time with the perfect ending. So the rematch with DuBois makes the most sense. Get the belt back he was forced to give up to satisfy the Fury rematch to become undisputed again and end the senseless argument that somehow DuBois was "robbed" in a fight it can be argued he never won a round in. Seriously. like the most skilled HW fighter of this generation couldn't have survived that only good punch landed on him if it was ruled legal and recovered to win anyways is such a weak argument.

In my humble, unimportant opinion Parker deserves it more and I want to see that fight more as it provides Usyk with a new challenge. But the DuBois rematch makes more sense in a vacuum.