Question For Those Who Think Dirrell Is 'Greatly Skilled' Or 'The Future S6 Winner'

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  • street bully
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    #11
    Direll is a prospect, and he BEAT Froch easily, made him look silly.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #12
      You guys are acting as if he is James Toney, fighting in the pocket and yet still avoiding 99% of his opponent's shots while landing 99% of his own. That's skill. That's masterful. This to me wasn't much more impressive than the Curtis Stevens fight.
      That's true skill; agree. Legs are good to use as well and should be if you have the ability, but overall, what Toney does impresses me more. Standing there and making someone miss is more entertaining and more ballzy. But, in the end, if it is you, you go with what you can do by knowing your strengths and weaknesses.

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      • Clegg
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        #13
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        You mean like he did against Baldomir? Get the **** out of here clown.

        Great, compare Floyd vs Hatton, when Froch clearly had 20lb on Dirrell in the ring.
        You're an idiot. Seriously Shawn, all of your posts are **** and everyone considers you a joke. In the training lounge they laugh at you for getting beat up by a fat 12 year old, in the lounge they laugh at you for your idiotic political and social views.

        Froch was 20lbs heavier? Ridiculous.

        Mayweather has had some bad performances, but he has also shown great skills in some of his other fights. The Baldomir performance (which showed more skill than Dirrell's career-best win, btw) doesn't mean he isn't skilled, because there are 30+ other fights where Floyd shows why he is the best boxer of the last 10 years. Dirrell didn't look great tonight, nor has he at any other point in his career.

        The difference between Mayweather and Dirrell is astronomical.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #14
          Dirrell has a lot of talent and a good ammount of skill but he is not completely polished. He also is a mostly outside fighter, although he is not a total zero on the inside (80-20 outside-inside in terms of effectiveness), his defense relies a lot on athletic ability more so then fundementals, he is young though so he could pick up a tirck or two.

          He impressed me tonight but outboxing Carl Froch should not really be a measuring stick for boxing skill/fundementals. It was a rough fight also and skills often get burried beneath all the rough stuff.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #15
            Originally posted by street bully
            Direll is a prospect, and he BEAT Froch easily, made him look silly.
            He won but he should have fought better and done more. The way he fought after the point deduction was good although in that last round he fought for the one punch KO which was bad on his part. He should have stuck behind the jab and used combos with some foot movement throughout the fight.

            Maybe he should bring in an additional trainer to kick his ass into gear.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #16
              Originally posted by Clegg
              Ok, so Froch was terrible. But Dirrell, this supposed 'great technical' landed about 10 punches a round for most of the fight. For 2 minutes of every round, he ran away. He was literally running at speed.

              Yes, he was on the wrong end of a bad decision tonight, but that doesn't translate into him being able to beat an elite boxer.

              You guys are acting as if he is James Toney, fighting in the pocket and yet still avoiding 99% of his opponent's shots while landing 99% of his own. That's skill. That's masterful. This to me wasn't much more impressive than the Curtis Stevens fight.

              Let's look at it this way: If Margarito had tried to outbox Paul Williams by mostly standing still and flicking out a jab, and Williams had responded by landing 4 punches around and then running away, until trapped at which point he would hold and look to the ref with a pained expression on his face, would that be masterful? Because that's what we're talking about here.

              Dawson is far better than this guy. Ward is better than this guy. Watch Kessler-Andrade, where Kessler shows 1000x more composure than Dirrell against a more aggressive, physically stronger opponent, and lands 100s of hard, technically perfect punches while taking hardly anything back in return.

              Please, do you really think that Chad Dawson would only land a couple of punches on Froch? Even Tarver-Woods was 10x the display of skill that we saw tonight.

              You can't have it both ways. If Froch was terrible (and he was) then landing such a low number of punches on him doesn't take masterful skills.

              Dirrell is talented, but he hasn't shown great skills and fought like a scared child. As soon as someone decent (Abraham, Kessler) starts to open up against him, he will go into meltdown and be knocked out. He doesn't have the mentality to win this thing, he hasn't displayed the skill to win this thing, and you guys are ridiculously overrating him just because he landed a low number of punches on a guy you consider to be ****.

              So my question is...how exactly do you have him winning this, and what exactly were these great skills? Do you really think he's on the same level as the guys mentioned above?
              dirrell is skilled and pretty athletic, but he is too green and needs to toughen up. that said, he still beat froch.

              ward better watch himself if/when he goes overseas.

              dawson is bigger and would whup all the super 6.

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              • BadNewz
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                #17
                Dirrell has flaws, but he and Ward are still the best in this tournament.

                You don't have to be perfect to be best in the 168 weight class, since all the other 168 fighters are bums.

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                • Toney Loc
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  dirrell is skilled and pretty athletic, but he is too green and needs to toughen up. that said, he still beat froch.

                  ward better watch himself if/when he goes overseas.

                  dawson is bigger and would whup all the super 6.
                  Ward will be fighting Kessler in Oakland.

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                  • kayjay
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                    #19
                    Stop it with the Mayweather comparisons. Mayweather does not let mediocre fighters take him to contestable decisions. Dirrell has run from UNSKILLed fighters like Stevens, and fought in retreat last night against the weakest of the Super Six. If he fought like that against Froch he has no chance at all against Abraham.

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                    • The Dice
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                      #20
                      Can he even win the S6 now, he just got robbed.

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