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    Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Where do Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol rank among the greatest light heavyweights?

    In your latest serving of the Daily Bread Mailbag, the one and only Stephen "Breadman" Edwards delves into history to name the best 'slow' fighter, reveal which two fights would need to be different for Thomas Hearns to be the greatest of them all, and examine where Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev belong among the greatest of all light heavyweights
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    Love Breadman’s comments about Tommy Hearns, an all time great but still underrated fighter. I’ve always said this - Tommy barely lost to arguably the greatest ever welterweight, and if Hagler’s chin was a smidgen less iron then Hearns would have likely KO’d arguably the greatest ever middleweight. He probably was the greatest ever super welterweight. Incredible fighter, incredible career. I’ve got him number six in my fifty year lifetime.

    Also love that call out of Loma-Linares. Great, underrated win for Loma. Gave away 13lbs in the ring, overcame torn labrum, Linares fought the fight of his life. Hands down Loma was the best fighter in the sport back then.

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mark Elding
      Love Breadman’s comments about Tommy Hearns, an all time great but still underrated fighter. I’ve always said this - Tommy barely lost to arguably the greatest ever welterweight, and if Hagler’s chin was a smidgen less iron then Hearns would have likely KO’d arguably the greatest ever middleweight. He probably was the greatest ever super welterweight. Incredible fighter, incredible career. I’ve got him number six in my fifty year lifetime.

      Also love that call out of Loma-Linares. Great, underrated win for Loma. Gave away 13lbs in the ring, overcame torn labrum, Linares fought the fight of his life. Hands down Loma was the best fighter in the sport back then.
      Bivol best Russian boxer best east euro

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        Does Breadcrumbs ever get tired of having Boots balls in his mouth??? Honestly, Dude actin like beating Stanionis makes Boots a P4P fighter, LMFAO! Enough already Boots is what he is a Jarret Hurd weight bully type of fighter. If the kid had any balls he would stop killing himself trying to make 147 and fight in his legit weight division and arguably the toughest in boxing @ 154 lbs.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mark Elding
          Love Breadman’s comments about Tommy Hearns, an all time great but still underrated fighter. I’ve always said this - Tommy barely lost to arguably the greatest ever welterweight, and if Hagler’s chin was a smidgen less iron then Hearns would have likely KO’d arguably the greatest ever middleweight. He probably was the greatest ever super welterweight. Incredible fighter, incredible career. I’ve got him number six in my fifty year lifetime.

          Also love that call out of Loma-Linares. Great, underrated win for Loma. Gave away 13lbs in the ring, overcame torn labrum, Linares fought the fight of his life. Hands down Loma was the best fighter in the sport back then.
          I'm around the same time frame. I would be interested in your top 20 or at least your top 10.
          Thanks

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            #6
            Originally posted by roademier

            I'm around the same time frame. I would be interested in your top 20 or at least your top 10.
            Thanks
            Sure. My top 10 pound for pound since 1975-

            1. Roberto Duran
            2. Sugar Ray Leonard
            3. Pernell Whitaker
            4. Julio Cesar Chavez
            5. Marvellous Marvin Hagler
            6. Thomas Hearns
            7. Floyd Mayweather
            8. Manny Pacquiao
            9. Roy Jones
            10. James Toney

            Evander Holyfield and Alexis Arguello just miss out.

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            • Mark Elding
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              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              Bivol best Russian boxer best east euro
              Bivol’s superb but he doesn’t have what peak Lomachenko had. And that peak was shortened through injury and consistently facing naturally bigger guys in a desire to challenge himself. No-one else quite Lomachenko in this era except Usyk.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Eastlos
                Does Breadcrumbs ever get tired of having Boots balls in his mouth??? Honestly, Dude actin like beating Stanionis makes Boots a P4P fighter, LMFAO! Enough already Boots is what he is a Jarret Hurd weight bully type of fighter. If the kid had any balls he would stop killing himself trying to make 147 and fight in his legit weight division and arguably the toughest in boxing @ 154 lbs.
                He already has Boots in the top 10 P4P without even having beaten Stanionis yet.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mark Elding

                  Bivol’s superb but he doesn’t have what peak Lomachenko had. And that peak was shortened through injury and consistently facing naturally bigger guys in a desire to challenge himself. No-one else quite Lomachenko in this era except Usyk.
                  Ukrainian means waking up every morning, looking in the mirror, seeing a Russian orc named Ivan Ivanov, and making the conscious decision that you want to be that, but a worse, counterfeit version without all the civilizational benefits

                  Bivol still has these on the horizon

                  Benavidez o
                  Jai’s o
                  Artur’s Cousin Imam’s o
                  The o of the top 168 guy who goes up to have success at 175

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                    #10
                    This "expert " favors Conwell over Vergil Ortiz ? Put the crack pipe down ! Please! Sometimes Bread is comedy gold !

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