Floyd Rewatching Marquez-Pacquiao IV

[IronDanHamza]

1. you do care, because you are on here defending marquez from other posters accusing him of being on peds.

No I don't care. I don't care if 332831281029012912 people tried to claim Pacquaio is a PED user because I haven't so what anyone else has said in that regard is IRRELEVANT.

I'm not defending Marquez.

I am stating that the evidence attempted to being used to call him a "drug cheat" is not evidence. It's not for Marquez, it's not for Pacquaio, or anyone else who has had a working relationship with someone linked to PED use.

2. yet, when other posters on here accused manny of being on peds because his "head grew", that was enough evidence right?

Again, what other people have tried to assert is IRRELEVANT to my position.

And the accusation of someone's "head growing" is not demonstrable evidence of PED use, no.

3. my point here is that you got triggered by a poster calling marquez a drug cheat. it's not far-fetched to believe he was on it since he pretty much hooked up with a known ped pusher who was caught and convicted!!! you got so triggered by this accusation that you went on with that poster for multiple pages, bringing up manny and his relationship with ariza, who has never been caught for supplying peds, yet you brought ariza up to try and say "if you gonna accuse marquez, then you have to include manny as well".

Your point is a non argument.

The fact it's Marquez that's being talked about is irrelevant. I couldn't care less if the fighter being accused was called Marquez or any other name. The issue is accusing a fighter of being on PEDs with no evidence and the lack of consistency when doing so.

Marquez and Pacquaio both worked with S&C coaches with a PED history. END OF STORY. The levels they went to with that in irrelevant, both have links with PED's during their careers.

So, it's either, both are "drug cheats" on that basis or neither of them are. I can't make that any clearer or easier to understand.

[djtmal]

Wait a minute, you're saying Collazo won Rounds 2-12?

What a fucking retard. You haven't watched this fight, that's clear. Or you either haven't watched it or you are even more retarded than we originally thought, which is close to impossible.



Collazo had 4 clear rounds in the fight;

5,6,10,12

Hatton had 5 clear rounds;

1 (10-8) ,3,8,9,11

Either way rounds;

2,4,7



Final punch stats;

Hatton 259/741

Collazo 213/712

That's 7-5 either way, with a KD for Hatton. Meaning it's a point or two either way. Which all 3 judges that it in that range.

That's actually what happened you stupid fat retard.

What actually happened is Hatton lost

Only thing he won was the Floyd sweepstakes

[djtmal]

Ok, why am I supposed to care what other people do and say? I couldn't care any less.

That poster is calling Marquez a drug cheat on the basis he works with someone linked to PEDs. That is not evidence for someone using PEDs.

It doesn't matter if your name is Marquez, Pacquaio, Jim Jones or Tim Jones.

There is just as much evidence for Pacquaio being on PEDs as there is Marquez being on PEDs; Zero. Either neither one is a "drug cheat" or both are.




I DON'T CARE what posters want to say. It's irrelevant. I'd say the same if someone was labelling Pacquaio a "drug cheat" for that same reason and already have a plethora of times on this website.

You've decided to make up a fantasy scenario where I have not only not done that but apparently under the group "ya'll" have even accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs which I have never done.



When and where is irrelevant, Ariza has links to PED use. It's as simple as that.

If working with someone linked to PEDs is evidence of PED use then anyone who worked with Memo, Ariza or anyone in that field both before AND AFTER are to be held to the same standard.

It's really just as simple as that. Either all of them are "drug cheats" or none of them are.

There is no demonstrable evidence that Pacquaio, or Marquez used PEDs in their boxing career. It is as simple as that.

This guy has the best excuses on this site

[IronDanHamza]

What actually happened is Hatton lost

Only thing he won was the Floyd sweepstakes

I've literally just broken down the rounds You are actually trying to argue that Collazo won rounds 3,8,9 and 11?

Hatton won the fight. That is a fact.

You lied and said that one judge had it for Collazo which they didn't.

You then embarrassingly said Collazo won every round after Round 1 which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[IronDanHamza]

This guy has the best excuses on this site

Excuse where? For what?

Where is there an excuse any where in that post and excuse for what?

[djtmal]

I've literally just broken down the rounds :

Who cares.
I told you Hatton lost. Lost every round after the knockdown

[IronDanHamza]

Who cares.
I told you Hatton lost. Lost every round after the knockdown

Ok then so if we are just going to make things up that are objectively outside of reality and we can make patently false statements then Marvin Hagler lost every round to Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Vito Antofermo too.

So that's 3 bad loss's Hagler now has.

[djtmal]

Ok then so if we are just going to make things up that are objectively outside of reality and we can make patently false statements then Marvin Hagler lost every round to Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Vito Antofermo too.

So that's 3 bad loss's Hagler now has.

I know Hatton lost idk wtf you are talking about

[IronDanHamza]

I know Hatton lost idk wtf you are talking about

Ok and everyone knows Hagler lost every round to Leonard, Duran and Vito Antofermo.

[djtmal]

Ok and everyone knows Hagler lost every round to Leonard, Duran and Vito Antofermo.

Hatton couldn't carry Haglers spit bucket