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  • daggum
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    Kenshiro Teraji hall of fame worthy?

    he has 11 wins over top 10(ring) ranked opponents. 7 of those wins were guys in the top 3. beat the ring champ at 108. won titles in 2 divisions 109 and 112

    notable wins:

    kyoguchi(champ)
    yabuki(#2)
    budler(#2)
    ganigan lopez(#3)
    guevera(#1)
    melindo(#2)
    akui(#3)
    Last edited by daggum; 03-17-2025, 08:59 PM.
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    Without question.

    Ganigan Lopez twice, Pedro Guevara, Milan Melindo, Masamichi Yabuki, Hiroto Kyoguchi, Anthony Olascuaga, Hekkie Budler, Carlos Canizales (should be WBC champ right now but got robbed in Thailand), Cristofer Rosales, and Seigo Yuri Akui. That's a fantastic list of wins, with only one loss to Yabuki.

    Titles won:
    WBC light flyweight (1st reign)
    WBA, WBC, TBRB, Ring, lineal light flyweight (2nd reign)
    WBA, WBC flyweight

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    • NihonJim
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      Absoloutley, that's a great record.

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      • Malvado
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        Gotta feel bad for him as he easily gets swapped out with a fighter coming off a single win in the P4P rankings and doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he fights at 108-112. Teraji also has a better resume than let's say Nakatani, Stevenson and Benavidez because he has a consistent streak against top fighters for nearly a decade and as a older fighter.

        Teraji has wins 10 out of 9 world champions. He also ran it back and knocked out Yabuki who had stopped him. That's a throwback fighter.

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        • daggum
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          #5
          Originally posted by J.C. Superstar
          Gotta feel bad for him as he easily gets swapped out with a fighter coming off a single win in the P4P rankings and doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he fights at 108-112. Teraji also has a better resume than let's say Nakatani, Stevenson and Benavidez because he has a consistent streak against top fighters for nearly a decade and as a older fighter.

          Teraji has wins 10 out of 9 world champions. He also ran it back and knocked out Yabuki who had stopped him. That's a throwback fighter.
          yeah his resume is a lot better than a guy like nakatais, nakatini is just undefeated and went through 3 divisions fighting mediocre opponents so i guess that gives him 10 billion more points even though ironically nakatani should have lost to yabuki but they robbed yabuki who had nakatani stumbling around the ring badly hurt in many rounds. nakatani only has 1 top 3 win his entire career and that was over santiago who was dubiously there, with his only notable win being donaire coming off a loss.

          teraji should be above canelo who has a good resume but was scared sh-itless of benavidez and forfeited his balls.

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            Originally posted by daggum

            yeah his resume is a lot better than a guy like nakatais, nakatini is just undefeated and went through 3 divisions fighting mediocre opponents so i guess that gives him 10 billion more points even though ironically nakatani should have lost to yabuki but they robbed yabuki who had nakatani stumbling around the ring badly hurt in many rounds. nakatani only has 1 top 3 win his entire career and that was over santiago who was dubiously there, with his only notable win being donaire coming off a loss.

            teraji should be above canelo who has a good resume but was scared sh-itless of benavidez and forfeited his balls.
            Agreed that Teraji should be currently regarded higher than both Nakatani and Alvarez at the moment, but considering his kamikaze style and age in the weight class, his prime might be coming to an end sooner than expected. Hopefully he still gives the Japanese audience 4-7 top fights.

            Nakatani looks like physically gifted fighter at 118 and has made improvements from what was considered a controversial win over Yabuki. But he hasn't really fought many champions that belong in the same weight class he is competing at, it was mostly veterans that were champions in lower weight classes like Francisco Rodriguez Jr, Milan Melindo, and Angel Acosta. Wins over Alexandro Santiago by a brutal KO and specially a Yabuki are pretty good, but like you mentioned his win against the latter is questionable and Santiago wasn't exactly championship caliber fighter just having retired 40 year old Donaire. He lost or was gifted a draw whenever he tried to step up, even now he got upset by journeyman with a record of (11-2). Don't think Nakatani's should be in the rankings, at least for now and not over Teraji.

            Alvarez prior his loss to Bivol in 2022, already was taking calculated risks to avoid losing albeit he did fight top fighters at 160-168 compared to now. He shouldn't had been removed since 2023-2024 as he is taking fights against opponents no one asked for, either they were from a lower division or was a old veteran (both in the case of GGG), while Canelo maneuvered is way to avoid the likes of Morrell and Benavidez.

            Gervonta Davis was there at 6-8 because of his big following, P4P leans towards more of a popularity contest.
            Last edited by Malvado; 03-17-2025, 09:36 PM.

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            • Oracle01
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              #7
              Those divisions are the weakest joke. There is good reason most people don't rate them moving up 6 lbs and 5 divisions.

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                Originally posted by Oracle01
                Those divisions are the weakest joke. There is good reason most people don't rate them moving up 6 lbs and 5 divisions.
                I agree with your point that there are too many divisions but a 108 pound fighter moving to 112 is a gain of 3.7 percent. A fighter moving from 168 to 175 is a gain of 4.2 percent in comparison so its pretty negligible but I would like to see the divisions halved unlike canelo who wants to make his own divison for every pound.

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                • daggum
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                  Originally posted by J.C. Superstar

                  Agreed that Teraji should be currently regarded higher than both Nakatani and Alvarez at the moment, but considering his kamikaze style and age in the weight class, his prime might be coming to an end sooner than expected. Hopefully he still gives the Japanese audience 4-7 top fights.

                  Nakatani looks like physically gifted fighter at 118 and has made improvements from what was considered a controversial win over Yabuki. But he hasn't really fought many champions that belong in the same weight class he is competing at, it was mostly veterans that were champions in lower weight classes like Francisco Rodriguez Jr, Milan Melindo, and Angel Acosta. Wins over Alexandro Santiago by a brutal KO and specially a Yabuki are pretty good, but like you mentioned his win against the latter is questionable and Santiago wasn't exactly championship caliber fighter just having retired 40 year old Donaire. He lost or was gifted a draw whenever he tried to step up, even now he got upset by journeyman with a record of (11-2). Don't think Nakatani's should be in the rankings, at least for now and not over Teraji.

                  Alvarez prior his loss to Bivol in 2022, already was taking calculated risks to avoid losing albeit he did fight top fighters at 160-168 compared to now. He shouldn't had been removed since 2023-2024 as he is taking fights against opponents no one asked for, either they were from a lower division or was a old veteran (both in the case of GGG), while Canelo maneuvered is way to avoid the likes of Morrell and Benavidez.

                  Gervonta Davis was there at 6-8 because of his big following, P4P leans towards more of a popularity contest.
                  Oh yeah yabuki is fighting Ayala soon so if yabuki wins we could see yabuki teraji 3 which would be great

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                    for sure!!

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