Andre Ward: America's Last Stand

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  • IMDAZED
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    #61
    Ward was "America's" first chance as well. He is simply a better fighter than both Dirrell and Taylor. He also should be at 175 - I'm not sure he'll comfortably make weight throughout this whole tourney. The Kessler-Ward bout features the two best fighters in the tourney IMO. I'm super excited for it but kinda disappointed to be seeing it so early.

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    • Silky-Flow
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      #62
      Originally posted by Krakodil
      idiot, kessler and froch are nothing alike. kessler is 10x better than froch. you are just a biased euro-hating american. and which people are saying kessler is the smw version of mayweather? nobody has said that, its you americans that are hyping up ward even though he has done **** all. kessler is proven, ward is not.
      For the last f/cking time IM NOT EVEN AMERICAN YOU PR/CK, so just because someone doesn't favor Kessler and Froch's style that means they have to be a "hating American"? go get yourself another line because that's getting extremely tedious, the fact is Kessler is hardly a slick boxer with movement is he? he's much closer to Froch's style than he is to Dirrell's and that's apparent to anyone who knows anything about boxing, and yes Kessler is "more proven" than Ward but just like we saw last night STYLES MAKE FIGHTS and Kessler is gonna be in there with a highly skilled prospect who's got more bows to his arrows than the average bums he's faced in europe.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #63
        Originally posted by Krakodil
        idiot, kessler and froch are nothing alike. kessler is 10x better than froch. you are just a biased euro-hating american. and which people are saying kessler is the smw version of mayweather? nobody has said that, its you americans that are hyping up ward even though he has done **** all. kessler is proven, ward is not.
        Proven against who?

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        • Krakodil
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          #64
          Originally posted by Silky-Flow
          For the last f/cking time IM NOT EVEN AMERICAN YOU PR/CK, so just because someone doesn't favor Kessler and Froch's style that means they have to be a "hating American"? go get yourself another line because that's getting extremely tedious, the fact is Kessler is hardly a slick boxer with movement is he? he's much closer to Froch's style than he is to Dirrell's and that's apparent to anyone who knows anything about boxing, and yes Kessler is "more proven" than Ward but just like we saw last night STYLES MAKE FIGHTS and Kessler is gonna be in there with a highly skilled prospect who's got more bows to his arrows than the average bums he's faced in europe.
          Kessler is an excellent technician, he punches much much harder than Ward and he has a solid chin. Ward is slick but he is featherfisted and has a suspect chin. Kessler is just as good technically as Ward. Kessler is not even close to resembling Froch in any way or form.

          and as for your last sentence, Ward has only faced bums. his best win is a shot Miranda who is pretty much a journeyman now. yet you accuse Kessler of facing bums? I'll admit Kessler's resume isn't all that much but it is way way better than Wards.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Krakodil
            Kessler is an excellent technician, he punches much much harder than Ward and he has a solid chin. Ward is slick but he is featherfisted and has a suspect chin. Kessler is just as good technically as Ward. Kessler is not even close to resembling Froch in any way or form.

            and as for your last sentence, Ward has only faced bums. his best win is a shot Miranda who is pretty much a journeyman now. yet you accuse Kessler of facing bums? I'll admit Kessler's resume isn't all that much but it is way way better than Wards.
            I think Ward may be a little more well-rounded than Kess. But what Mikkel does do well, he does better than Ward.

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            • Krakodil
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              #66
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Proven against who?
              Who has Ward proven himself against? Who has Ward beat to make you think he can beat Kessler? You americans accuse Kessler of only facing bums and not being proven yet Ward has done **** all so far except beating a shot glass jawed Miranda who is a journeyman now, and he couldn't even knock him out. I'll admit Kessler's resume is not that good but it is 10 times better than Wards.

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              • Silky-Flow
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                #67
                Originally posted by Krakodil
                Kessler is an excellent technician, he punches much much harder than Ward and he has a solid chin. Ward is slick but he is featherfisted and has a suspect chin. Kessler is just as good technically as Ward. Kessler is not even close to resembling Froch in any way or form.

                and as for your last sentence, Ward has only faced bums. his best win is a shot Miranda who is pretty much a journeyman now. yet you accuse Kessler of facing bums? I'll admit Kessler's resume isn't all that much but it is way way better than Wards.
                And how many times has Ward been down? ONCE!!.. the same amount as "granite chin" Carl Froch but somehow Ward has a "suspect chin"?!! yeah right, and yes Kessler may have some skills but when you look at the list of his opponants how many of them have had slick movement and enough speed to make him pay with counters? ONE (Calzaghe) and he lost that fight, Ward is also a switch hitter which means Kessler is gonna have to adapt to different styles during the fight just like Froch struggled to do last night, experience obviously does favor Kessler but when it comes to speed, slick skills and movement then imo Ward has the advantage in those departments.

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                • Krakodil
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                  And how many times has Ward been down? ONCE!!.. the same amount as "granite chin" Carl Froch but somehow Ward has a "suspect chin"?!! yeah right, and yes Kessler may have some skills but when you look at the list of his opponants how many of them have had slick movement and enough speed to make him pay with counters? ONE (Calzaghe) and he lost that fight, Ward is also a switch hitter which means Kessler is gonna have to adapt to different styles during the fight just like Froch struggled to do last night, experience obviously does favor Kessler but when it comes to speed, slick skills and movement then imo Ward has the advantage in those departments.
                  Calzaghe is 10 times better than Ward. And stop bringing up Froch, Kessler and Froch are nothing alike and Kessler is levels above Froch when it comes to skill and he also punches harder.

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                    #69
                    I think this may be your only ace in the sleeve. But it remains to see wether he can live up to the expectations. Kessler has only been bested by the greatest smw ever.

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                    • Silky-Flow
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Krakodil
                      Calzaghe is 10 times better than Ward. And stop bringing up Froch, Kessler and Froch are nothing alike and Kessler is levels above Froch when it comes to skill and he also punches harder.
                      Ward is still growing as a fighter so to claim Joe is "level's above" is purely speculative, Ward has all the tools to do just as much as Joe done in the game that's for sure, Kessler might be a big puncher but it wasn't enough to drop Calazaghe who's been down countless amounts of times and why is that? because like i said STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

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