Andre Ward: America's Last Stand

[Krakodil]

Ward is still growing as a fighter so to claim Joe is "level's above" is purely speculative, Ward has all the tools to do just as much as Joe done in the game that's for sure, Kessler might be a big puncher but it wasn't enough to drop Calazaghe who's been down countless amounts of times and why is that? because like i said STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

Calzaghe is levels above Ward until proven otherwise, who has Ward really beat except a shot glass jawed Miranda who he couldnt even knock out? Ward and Calzaghe are similar especcially when it comes to punching power because they both got none. If you think Ward will beat Kessler just because Calzaghe did you are dilusional.

[Bhopreign]

Who has Ward proven himself against? Who has Ward beat to make you think he can beat Kessler? You americans accuse Kessler of only facing bums and not being proven yet Ward has done **** all so far except beating a shot glass jawed Miranda who is a journeyman now, and he couldn't even knock him out. I'll admit Kessler's resume is not that good but it is 10 times better than Wards.

That wasnt the question. Its funny every time someone says Kessler is proven and I say, ok, against whom? I never get an answer but a comeback of who is Ward proven against. Again that wasnt the question.

[Krakodil]

That wasnt the question. Its funny every time someone says Kessler is proven and I say, ok, against whom? I never get an answer but a comeback of who is Ward proven against. Again that wasnt the question.

Kessler has beaten Librado Andrade, Anthony Mundine, Dimitri Sartison and Markus Beyer, all of those wins are miles better than Wards best win which is against a shot glass jawed Miranda who he couldnt even knock out. Im not sayin Kessler's resume is great or anything but it is a hell of alot better than Wards. Now answer me who has Ward proven himself against?

[Bhopreign]

Kessler has beaten Librado Andrade, Anthony Mundine, Dimitri Sartison and Markus Beyer, all of those wins are miles better than Wards best win which is against a shot glass jawed Miranda who he couldnt even knock out. Im not sayin Kessler's resume is great or anything but it is a hell of alot better than Wards. Now answer me who has Ward proven himself against?

See, Ive never compared Kessler's resume to Ward's, but Kessler's fans always do. Ward has only had 20 fights compared to Kessler's 43 and Kessler's resumes leaves much desired.

[Silky-Flow]

Calzaghe is levels above Ward until proven otherwise, who has Ward really beat except a shot glass jawed Miranda who he couldnt even knock out? Ward and Calzaghe are similar especcially when it comes to punching power because they both got none. If you think Ward will beat Kessler just because Calzaghe did you are dilusional.

In terms of slickness i'd argue that Ward is better than Calzaghe too, Joe was a man who threw a lot of punches in bunches and countered well but he was hardly what you'd call a "slickster" like Floyd, Guzman, Dawson, Gamboa etc was he? and that's something that Kessler hasn't really faced before, he's used to people standing in front of him and trying to beat him at his own game but with Ward he'll be facing someone who will move him all over the place and hit him with loads of speed, Ward's combo's are also at a very high level too, and for all of Kessler's experience who has he faced? Andrade, Calzaghe and then WHO? hardly any other major names on his record so lets not even go there, and when you consider that he's away from home and hasn't had many fights lately then it's clear he's in for a very tough night against Ward imo.

[swizz]

dirrell got rob last nite end of story every major writer in the world had dirrel winning

maybe kessler gets rob too?
i think froch doesnt go far and i also think he and taylor are the weakest in the tourney

[βetamax]

Kessler is an excellent technician, he punches much much harder than Ward and he has a solid chin. Ward is slick but he is featherfisted and has a suspect chin. Kessler is just as good technically as Ward. Kessler is not even close to resembling Froch in any way or form.

and as for your last sentence, Ward has only faced bums. his best win is a shot Miranda who is pretty much a journeyman now. yet you accuse Kessler of facing bums? I'll admit Kessler's resume isn't all that much but it is way way better than Wards.

Why do people forget that Kessler was badly hurt from a Calzaghe body shot and was lucky to have the ref save him? He admitted after the fight that he was hurt.

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Ward took flush shots from Miranda so I really don't think his chin needs to be questioned.

Anyway, I agree with IMDAZED. I think Kessler has the advantage in power and he can throw some great straight punch combinations, mainly the 1-2. However, he's fairly one-dimensional where Ward does everything good, but perhaps not great. It's an interesting match up and it's hard for me to pick a winner.

[swizz]

See, Ive never compared Kessler's resume to Ward's, but Kessler's fans always do. Ward has only had 20 fights compared to Kessler's 43 and Kessler's resumes leaves much desired.

kessler is good thou i like him actually think king arthur looks so strong

ward has a chance he just has to be well condition and prepare to go the distance cause kessler is no joke

[BattlingNelson]

See, Ive never compared Kessler's resume to Ward's, but Kessler's fans always do. Ward has only had 20 fights compared to Kessler's 43 and Kessler's resumes leaves much desired.

Who's missing on that resumé?

[swizz]

Kessler has beaten Librado Andrade, Anthony Mundine, Dimitri Sartison and Markus Beyer, all of those wins are miles better than Wards best win which is against a shot glass jawed Miranda who he couldnt even knock out. Im not sayin Kessler's resume is great or anything but it is a hell of alot better than Wards. Now answer me who has Ward proven himself against?

is not a resume to brag about thats for sure but he still has skills ward does to and i think the fight could be close