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  • #31
    Originally posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Dirrell was looking for a robbery by spoiling tactics and running.

    There were times when Dirrell held on to Froch and was getting punched in the face and Dirrell was complaining to the ref that he was getting punched in the face.

    No wonder the ref took the point.
    Ohh i got no beef with the point deduction. I think the ref should have done it a lot sooner. Add the fact that he never OFFICIALLY WARNED Dirrell for holding created the excessive holding.

    If he officially warned dirrell for holding then took a point away before round 6 or 7 maybe we would have had a much aesthetically pleasing fight to watch.

    That being said, Dirrell was so far up in the scorecard (the rightful honest scorecard) that the point deduction shouldnt have mattered.
    Last edited by DonTaseMeBrah; 10-17-2009, 11:29 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
      sorry bud but there's little difference. Only noticeable difference is Mayweather throws more but it's only pitty patty stuff. See ODLH fight, one man wanted to fight, the other wanted to run.
      so ricky hatton got ktfo by pitty patty stuff?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
        Ohh i got no beef with the point deduction. I think the ref should have done it a lot sooner. Add the fact that he never OFFICIALLY WARNED Dirrell for holding created the excessive holding.

        If he officially warned dirrell for holding then took a point away before round 6 or 7 maybe we would have had a much aesthetically pleasing fight to watch.

        That being said, Dirrell was so far up in the scorecard (the frightful honest scorecard) that the point deduction shouldnt have mattered.

        I think once the ref caught Dirrell feigning being fouled while he was holding Froch he kind of lost the refs support.

        His dubious holding and complaining did him no favours.

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        • #34
          I also agree that the ref was justified in taking a point from Dirrell for holding. That would have changed my score to 117-111 for Dirrell. It's also obvious that the ref should have taken a point away from Froch for the intentional take down and hitting on the break at least twice. That would have changed my score to 117-110. Deductions or not, this fight was not close. Happy Birthday, Cobra.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by P.WILL View Post
            i had it 120-108 froch, this is froch vs thin air by the way
            hahahaha that gave me a good laugh

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
              come on for 50% of that fight they didn't engage, that means the crowd is only watching half a fight. The other 50% Dirrell engaged then ran.

              Horrible horrible stuff, you're not straight if you want to watch one man chase another round the ring.
              So basically you just said that one fighter only fought for half of the fight, but the other fought none of it, yet deserves the win? That is interesting logic there......

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              • #37
                So many haters are saying that Dirrell lost the fight based on being negative.

                I thought winning fights was based on what you do as a fighter rather what your opponent does?

                Boxing is at the end of day - hitting your opponent. I saw only one person doing that tonight. End of.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                  How can you be defending that 12 round girly dance of Dirrell's?

                  Are you not men, don't you want to see a fight?

                  Or have you all turned into tinkerbelles?

                  If everyone fought like Dirrell and Mayweather, no one would watch boxing. Judges can't keep rewarding people who don't want to fight, that's just killing the money and the sport.
                  Some fighters are athletically gifted enough to avoid punches while hitting the other guy and some don't thats why they develop a more brawling style using their power. Thats why I love boxing everyone can come in and do their own style. I haven't watched the fight yet but I don't agree with running and not punching. But to me if every fight was a brawl like the pac-hatton fight for example I wouldn't see this sport being as big as it is today. It takes away from the sport when you say every fighter should just stand and trade and thats the only way you can win. I also read your comment using the ref as an excuse for ricky getting knocked out. I can't even make an intelligent rebuttal to that bull **** so I'll just say get that weak ass **** outta here.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                    How can you be defending that 12 round girly dance of Dirrell's?

                    Are you not men, don't you want to see a fight?

                    Or have you all turned into tinkerbelles?

                    If everyone fought like Dirrell and Mayweather, no one would watch boxing. Judges can't keep rewarding people who don't want to fight, that's just killing the money and the sport.

                    I don't mind the boxing, but I really despise all the holding. Dirrell was constantly grabbing on for dear life, and he deserved to lose a point. The problem is that Froch was committing all sorts of serious fouls, and should have also lost a point. I don't mind the fouls related to dealing with a guy who wants to hold or bend low at the waist, but the other fouls were blatant and serious.

                    In other words, Dirrell deserved to have some of the fouls ignored (the gloves sc****d across the face, the elbows and the rabbit punching). The body slam was also in response to holding, but that was just a bit too brutal. The holding and hitting and punching on the break were clear fouls that had nothing to do with the holding. I really don't see how you can take a point from Dirrell and not Froch. They both fouled constantly (holding is illegal).

                    That being said, Dirrell not only outboxed Froch, he also kicked his ass. The only meaningful punches of the fight were landed by Dirrell. The only rounds that featured meaningful action were dominated by Dirrell (except for round 12). The only fighter to be hurt was Froch.

                    You make it sound like Dirrell ran like a scared rabbit for 12 rounds, maybe mixing in some ***** dance moves and occasionally landing a pawing jab. Did you watch the fight? The reality is that Dirrell, while admittedly fighting like a coward at times, hurt Carl badly and landed all of the best punches of the fight.

                    Did you see Froch's legs go to jelly when Dirrell tagged him? Froch is lucky there wasn't much time left in the round, because he was seriously hurt. Again, did you watch the fight? In between all that running, Dirrell whipped some ass.

                    Froch hardly fought like a prime Mike Tyson. He had entire rounds where he was scared ****less to close the distance and throw punches. He simply stayed out of range and did nothing - absolutely nothing! Did you miss the beginning of the fight?

                    Dirrell looked pretty terrible at times, but Froch looked even worse. He looked like a club fighter. He got outboxed. He absorbed more damage. He was clearly hurt by Dirrell's best punches. He might have landed 1 or 2 significant, legal punches the entire fight. He never hurt Dirrell in the least.

                    Are you proud of Froch's performance? A novice pro travelled across the Atlantic to fight in Froch's hometown, with only 6 days to acclimate, and Froch failed to inflict any damage whatsoever. In the process he almost got KTFO.

                    I think you need to watch the fight again, and try not to watch it through rose colored glasses. Froch's performance was truly embarassing.
                    Last edited by APryor; 10-18-2009, 02:12 AM. Reason: I forgot to mention Froch hitting after the bell.

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                    • #40
                      How can anyone say this about Dirrell, but not Vitali K?

                      He didn't want to stand toe to toe and brawl,

                      what's wrong with that?

                      He felt he'd do better outpointing Froch, and I think he did personally.

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