Who is greater? wilder or Kabayel?

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  • NihonJim
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    Who is greater? wilder or Kabayel?

    Kabayel for me.

    He beat the young version of Luis Ortiz in frank Sanchez, Zhang and Makhmudov wins are better than losses to fury.
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    Probably kabayel. He beat chisora as well. They both have beaten 2 top 10 ring ranked opponents but kabayels wins are more impressive

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    • El_Mero
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      #3
      Never been a Wilder fan so I'm bias lol.....but Kabayel seems to have better quality wins minus the title.

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        Kabayel is a giant slayer. He's the guy to watch now in the Heavyweight division. Zhang looked tired by the second round.
        Last edited by ganggrudging; 03-02-2025, 11:25 PM.

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          Kabayel woild beat everybody Wilder beat.

          H is a must see guy at hw now.

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          • TMLT87
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            Kabayel.

            Honestly its kind of ****ing sad to see how easy it is to surpass Wilders legacy at this point. All you have do is pick up a few solid top 10 level wins and you're already there. It really highlights how much of Wilders career was spent treading water beating underwhelming opponents to pad his record and trying to fool people into thinking he was a monster KO machine.

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            • The D3vil
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              Wilder is "greater".

              Greater means "more accomplished".

              Kayabel will be lucky to be champion for 5 years, defend the belt 10 times, & be part of one of the greatest trilogies in boxing history.

              Y'all clown Fury, but Usyk said the OLD Fury was the best fighter he fought. Better than Joshua, Dubois, Chisora, or Gassiev.

              Kayabel hasn't fought Usyk yet & until he performs better against him than Fury did, Fury's still the guy who pushed Usyk the most.

              You guys are just incapable about being objective about Wilder or Fury.

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              • hugh grant
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                Who goes down as greater, probably kabayel. And kabayel probably beats wilder h2h, and is better boxer. Wilder s best win is Luis ortiz.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 02-28-2025, 06:27 AM.

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                • TMLT87
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The D3vil
                  Wilder is "greater".

                  Greater means "more accomplished".

                  Kayabel will be lucky to be champion for 5 years, defend the belt 10 times, & be part of one of the greatest trilogies in boxing history.
                  Theres a lot of smoke and mirrors to that though. "champ for 5 years and 10 defences" sounds great on the surface, but it falls apart when you talk about who he actually fought to accomplish that.

                  And Wilders main role in the Fury trilogy was getting his ass kicked. He didnt win a single fight, got stopped in two of them and was arguably gifted a DRAW in the one he went the distance in.

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                  • daggum
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The D3vil
                    Wilder is "greater".

                    Greater means "more accomplished".

                    Kayabel will be lucky to be champion for 5 years, defend the belt 10 times, & be part of one of the greatest trilogies in boxing history.

                    Y'all clown Fury, but Usyk said the OLD Fury was the best fighter he fought. Better than Joshua, Dubois, Chisora, or Gassiev.

                    Kayabel hasn't fought Usyk yet & until he performs better against him than Fury did, Fury's still the guy who pushed Usyk the most.

                    You guys are just incapable about being objective about Wilder or Fury.
                    wilder wasnt lucky, it was cherry picking. 5 years and 10 defenses and yet only 1 top opponent was beaten. for comparison kabayel just beat 2 top 10 guys back to back and has no belt, no defenses, and did it in less than a year. wilder fury trilogy was entertaining but fury won all 3 fights. its like saying the fury-chisora trilogy gives chisora some kind of greantess, it doesnt. he lost them all. no one would say chisora is great simply for losing to fury although you can make a case hes better than wilder, he just didnt have those gimme title defenses agaisnt scrubs that wilder has.
                    Last edited by daggum; 02-28-2025, 11:39 AM.

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