The whole damn card is suspect at this point.

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[ggallin7]

bakole and joe are actually friends, and bakole he also has that smile on his face even in inappropriate times... for me the dubois pullout is very suspect though

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[Roadblock]

I think the young people of today are the most paranoid negative crowd in the history of mankind, some times and probably a lot more than anyone wants to admit a thing called coincidence happens, and when it does so do all the calls of conspiracy, robberies, everyone is evil out to get us all the time, Im an old fck now and never seen so much paranoia.

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[Roadblock]

Ive been watching boxing for 40 years. I am an old fk. It is incredibly corrupt and if you think that all of this is coincidence, in a sport where millions are won on ********, and where boxers stand to make many millions for throwing a fight.....

I mean I don't know man. Maybe you are right. But there is a lot of coincidental stink involving this card. Smells absolutely obviously awful.

All the boxing is dead talk and the major loss of interest in the sport seems to be causing some su****ious moves.

There is always su****ious moves and they can be read into things very easily this is what critical thinking is about, just depends on your perspective if you see them or not or they may not be there and you think they are, corruption is everywhere, but its not everywhere all of the time and that creates more conspiracy theories because more people are negative and paranoid than ever before, and Im not saying your wrong because I dont know, but I would not bet you being right.

[Inspired]

1) ive often spoke of boxing's fixed fights..and i do find the dubois situation dodgy. However, why would the saudis want to fix bakole a loss? there is little money riding on that. The reality is that bakole wasnt prepared and he'd never boxed at this level before. Jared Anderson struggled with charles martin. Bakole was beat by Michael Hunter. We all expected him to be more durable/tougher.

I saw nothing dodgy about Bakole's loss. Bakole was in no condition to fight on this level, but he took it for a good payday. Overall it hink bakole is a very happy man. he has not earned a lot in boxing. Despite living in the UK, he doesnt have the personality of a Chisora and is boring to watch. So this opportunity is probably the difference between owning a decent house in England vs living on rent.

An example of a fake fall, is ortiz against wilder in the second fight, or helenius against wilder. this bakole loss was legit. Bakole lost his equilibrium, he is also inexperienced and just went to the corner knowing he's already lost. That punch to the top of his head, is similar to the one that Chisora landed on Carlos Takam.



2) i watched the tnt one where they were giving everything to beterbiev. The situation where bivol started struggling in rounds 3 to 6 and wasnt throwing his right hand, was either a strain/injury which he recovered from, courtesy of adrenaline, or he was playing possum and allowing beterbiev to open up early, to tire him out. it seems the latter is true.

to even think that was a fixed fight means you're an obvious imbecile.

[Inspired]

The thing I liked about the Saudi involvement was the infinite money to get guys to fight each other. What I honestly never thought about was the control it gives them. If Biev had won, he loses huge money, GUARANTEED Saudi money. Same with Dubois, he was likely told to bow out and promised a huge payday for the Usyk rematch. That fight is huge right now as Dubois looks majorly improved and Usyk would be unifying for a second time.

They have an interest in making Shakur look good as well. He has been ruined reputation wise by his last few fights.

I mean I wanted good fights with the best. I didn't want Hulk Hogan scripted against the Ultimate Warrior. It seems blatant to me what was going on.

another dumb take
it was the saudis that put the parker fight on for dubois. they didnt need to do that and nor did dubois need to accept it. it was a voluntary fight that dubois welcomed because he knew usyk won't be fighting anytime soon.

if there's anything dodfy from dubois's end, it is via frank warren, not the saudis. the saudis then had to overpay Bakole to come in last minute.

when they fix fights in boxing, it is through betting....and the saudis have enough that they dont need to do that sh**.
saudi involvement in boxing is just a means through which they get mainstream sports media attention in a positive way that may protect them when the west decides to back a new regime. ie it is about kissing as much white a** as possible. these events, they have len blavatnik, the dazn owner who is a hardcore zionist, best friend of netenyahu, sitting with them. So if blatantik wants a fight fixed for his own benefit (because he is in the betting industry) then the saudis simply comply.
it isnt saudi running any of it. they're just there to wipe a**es and give them all big paydays.

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