Comments Thread For: Its time to drop Canelo Alvarez from pound-for-pound lists

[TheProudLunatic]

What an absolute joke of an article that is clearly littered with bias against a great fighter who has given us nothing but the best fight over the last 10 years. He's earned the right to choose who he wanted to fight and even Mayweather Jr. would NEVER have taken the fights against a Bivol in his prime. You try and justify keeping Gervonta Davis in the top 10, who does belong there. What about Bud Crawford who fights once per year, and garbage opponents?!?!?!? Canelo has fought 2x per year like clockwork, 3x in 2021. Please submit your resignation to Boxing Scene ASAP.

His last test was Biv
Munguia
Berlanga
Charla
Ryder
And now Scull ?!?!?!?

I've been rooting for Nelo when he was Young Nelo
Been saying he has the best resume of all active fighters
But the bullshlt is starting to pile up !!!!!

SCULL ?!?!?!?!?!?

[MulaKO]

Meanwhile naoya Inoue is fighting Ye Hoo Kim and TJ Doheny and gets knocked down by Luis nery and they wanna put him as #1 p4p lol hahaha

Your right but he ain’t -$3000
like your hero Canelo
But you wanna make
it sound like that’s deserving of p4p

Lmfao

Please make it make some kind of sense

[MexicouFistology]

Meanwhile naoya Inoue is fighting Ye Hoo Kim and TJ Doheny and gets knocked down by Luis nery and they wanna put him as #1 p4p lol hahaha

[MulaKO]

He is more celebrity than a athlete, he is a risk calculated prize fighter since the beginning, with him having a lot of backing compared to most fighters with the backing of the promoters and judges. You can display his whole resume which seems impressive at first, but with context, it is shown that it is manufactured to look that way by mixing quite declined high profile fighters and risky but high reward opponents. It is for a Hall Of Famer and he is quite skilled to have pulled it off, but it is quite exaggerated of how great it is.

Stipulations like catchweights and rehydration clauses were often at beginning to reduce risk, even bringing up fighters like Mayweather, Khan and Charlo. Prize fighters like Mayweather Jr himself and Gervonta Davis maneuver their careers like that as well.

His celebrity status and connections is what is allowing him to retain his spot in the P4P rankings along with him being able to ignore mandatories by the four professional boxing organizations. He has profitable fights in PPVs even without a standard great opponent to pull it off, there is a reason PBC and DAZN has been cooperating for his fights. There is a reason why fighters like JMM who were rarely in the position to be the A-side don't like how he maneuvers his career, as he himself didn't get major opportunities until he was in his early thirties nor did he apply anti-risks.

Realistically he should not had been in the P4P for years, and should had been strapped multiple times as he should had fought mandatories like Benavidez. But professional boxing benefits financially by backing him, so he isn't exactly treated like an reat post athlete that should follow the rules of the sport, at least compared to the vast majority of the other fighters. Gervonta Davis is also treated this way, though he hasn't fought good lightweights without conditions outside of Pedraza and Frank Martin.

Great post JC
I knew you had it in you
Your still a schizo but good post

[Hustle]

I won’t try to defend the William scull fight or Canelo not fighting benavidez, but boxing fans just like to complain. It’s not Canelos fault that there aren’t any stars around his weight class. I don’t think he can beat benavidez but imagine if he did. Then what? Going by this article, you can maybe do a top 6 pound for pound

Then fight bivol/Beterbiev winner for undisputed.

it's simple. Canelo don't want tough fights

[TheProudLunatic]

So
Who is the p4p king ?
Don't anyone say Usyk or The "Monster"

HW's shouldn't qualify
99% of p4pers fight at mult divs

The "Moinster" is doing his "cleaning out the garbage" tour

[Malvado]

He is more celebrity than a athlete, he is a risk calculated prize fighter since the beginning, with him having a lot of backing compared to most fighters with the backing of the promoters and judges. You can display his whole resume which seems impressive at first, but with context, it is shown that it is manufactured to look that way by mixing quite declined high profile fighters and risky but high reward opponents. It is for a Hall Of Famer and he is quite skilled to have pulled it off, but it is quite exaggerated of how great it is.

Stipulations like catchweights and rehydration clauses were often at beginning to reduce risk, even bringing up fighters like Mayweather, Khan and Charlo. Prize fighters like Mayweather Jr himself and Gervonta Davis maneuver their careers like that as well.

His celebrity status and connections is what is allowing him to retain his spot in the P4P rankings along with him being able to ignore mandatories by the four professional boxing organizations. He has profitable fights in PPVs even without a standard great opponent to pull it off, there is a reason PBC and DAZN has been cooperating for his fights. There is a reason why fighters like JMM who were rarely in the position to be the A-side don't like how he maneuvers his career, as he himself didn't get major opportunities until he was in his early thirties nor did he apply anti-risks.

Realistically he should not had been in the P4P for years, and should had been strapped multiple times as he should had fought mandatories like Benavidez. But professional boxing benefits financially by backing him, so he isn't exactly treated like a athlete that should follow the rules of the sport, at least compared to the vast majority of the other fighters. Gervonta Davis is also treated this way, though he hasn't fought good lightweights without conditions outside of Pedraza and Frank Martin.

[rrayvez]

P4p is based on who is the best fighter right now if size wasn’t a factor. With that being said, Canelo is not top 10 in the world at the moment. No matter how much that hurts his fan girls.

[I_like_fights]

I won’t try to defend the William scull fight or Canelo not fighting benavidez, but boxing fans just like to complain. It’s not Canelos fault that there aren’t any stars around his weight class. I don’t think he can beat benavidez but imagine if he did. Then what? Going by this article, you can maybe do a top 6 pound for pound

[DeeMoney]

Alvarez’s legacy will, IMO, be forever stained by his refusal to fight Benevidez. And also because of his only interest in easy fights at the end of his career. Because of this, I don’t think he’ll be held as high as he could have been.

False.

His legacy is stained by building his resume by beating big name fighter who were past their prime. I think his best prime win is Caleb Plant.

He is still a heck of a fighter, but an overly inflated resume when you dont look into it.