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  • #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

    Right. Vargas didn’t like needing to have discipline so he changed trainers.

    But the fact that remains that a Nacho-trained fighter is good enough to be a current day world champion. Which invalidates your point that boxing has passed Nacho by.
    Who was his last true champion ???
    Not gonna argue with you but imo Nacho is passed due
    Has boxing evolved according to you ???

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    • #22
      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

      Who was his last true champion ???
      Not gonna argue with you but imo Nacho is passed due
      Has boxing evolved according to you ???
      Nope, I don’t think the nuts and bolts of boxing have evolved.

      In fact, I bet Nacho has forgotten more about the sport than some modern trainers will ever know.
      JLC JLC likes this.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

        Nope, I don’t think the nuts and bolts of boxing have evolved.

        In fact, I bet Nacho has forgotten more about the sport than some modern trainers will ever know.
        Oh definitely
        Not taking anything away from him but things have changed drastically
        Like I said before conditioning training are night and day from what it was
        Eating habits , sleeping habits etc etc have all changed
        Every sport has evolved just like boxing has

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          Oh definitely
          Not taking anything away from him but things have changed drastically
          Like I said before conditioning training are night and day from what it was
          Eating habits , sleeping habits etc etc have all changed
          Every sport has evolved just like boxing has
          That doesn't mean that boxing has changed. You can hire a nutritionist and conditioning coach to address those aspects, but the sweet science itself is still the same, just fighters these days spend more time on social media than on improving their skills. As long as the head coach is capable of working with others, I'd rather be with a guy with lots of knowledge like that. But the old school coaches want you to really be dedicated, and most kids trying to get into boxing simply don't have what it takes to work that hard.

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          • #25
            Undisputed is the most overrated ****e in boxing these days, meaningless title if you are waiting around to fight some IBF scone while you won’t step up n take a real challenge, Boots, Canelo.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

              That doesn't mean that boxing has changed. You can hire a nutritionist and conditioning coach to address those aspects, but the sweet science itself is still the same, just fighters these days spend more time on social media than on improving their skills. As long as the head coach is capable of working with others, I'd rather be with a guy with lots of knowledge like that. But the old school coaches want you to really be dedicated, and most kids trying to get into boxing simply don't have what it takes to work that hard.
              By change I mean everything around it has changed
              I get what you mean but at. 88 years old , Nacho has got to be outdated( not talking about his knowledge or his ring iq

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              • #27
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                That doesn't mean that boxing has changed. You can hire a nutritionist and conditioning coach to address those aspects, but the sweet science itself is still the same, just fighters these days spend more time on social media than on improving their skills. As long as the head coach is capable of working with others, I'd rather be with a guy with lots of knowledge like that. But the old school coaches want you to really be dedicated, and most kids trying to get into boxing simply don't have what it takes to work that hard.
                Bingo. JMM had Nacho as his chief and was working with Memo as his strength and conditioning guy. There’s a reason for that.

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