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  • #41
    Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
    It is hilarious how people act like Zhang is this world class puncher because he beat Joe Joyce. Joyce just got knocked down by Derek Chisora. Before he faced Zhang he was stopped twice in the first round as a 28 year old amateur with padded gloves and headgear. But because the clueless boxing media told you Joyce had a ATG chin the casuals believe it. Even him knocking down Joseph Parker didn't mean anything. Didn't Dillian Whyte drop Parker twice and Joyce stopped him. Zhang knocking out a 38 year old shot Wilder doesn't prove Zhang can punch because light punching Tyson Fury had already stopped Wilder twice.

    Agit should win and he should do it easily.. Zhang was hurt badly by Jerry Forrest, he was dropped early on in his career by a guy who was 6 and 6 I believe. Agit should be able to stop Zhang as well.
    It's not the knockdowns/ko's, it's the shots they come from.

    Parker in particular, it looked like Zhang hit him with an arm punch and Parker (who is durable) went down like a ton of bricks.

    Joyce similarly was able to shake off full power shots from Dubois but was hurt badly in the first round by what looked like a nothing shot.

    Zhang isn't like wilder throwing wide looping shots from the floor, he gets crazy leverage and his full weight into punches with very little wind up. He's a seriously dangerous puncher, but yes he does have a LOT of flaws.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by BoxerWriter View Post
      I've nothing against Kabayel and think he's a quality operator, but I'd like to see Zhang land cleanly in the first few rounds and win - mainly because I think some of the possible future match-ups featuring Zhang are more intriguing and exciting than those that might involve Kabayel. Zhang vs Bakole, Zhang vs Dubois, Zhang vs Wardley, even Zhang vs Itauma.
      What do boxing fans think is old for a heavyweight?

      I see everyone hype up Zhang and future match ups for him yet he is 42 in about 3 months.

      Wilder beats a undefeated 37 year Ortiz and people loved calling Ortiz old
      Fury beat a 38 year old 11 year champ in Wlad and people called him old

      If Zhang is beaten same thing will happen,for now none of you are mentioning his age and you think future 42 year old Zhang can be in exicting match ups, but if Dubois or Itauma were to win him, they get no credit and you'll start hearing "he beat a old Zhang". So they rather fight and win someone that they will get more credit for

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      • #43
        Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

        It's not the knockdowns/ko's, it's the shots they come from.

        Parker in particular, it looked like Zhang hit him with an arm punch and Parker (who is durable) went down like a ton of bricks.

        Joyce similarly was able to shake off full power shots from Dubois but was hurt badly in the first round by what looked like a nothing shot.

        Zhang isn't like wilder throwing wide looping shots from the floor, he gets crazy leverage and his full weight into punches with very little wind up. He's a seriously dangerous puncher, but yes he does have a LOT of flaws.
        Parker is durable because of what? Because you say so? Lol again Parker was knocked down twice by Dillian Whyte. Joe Joyce broke Parkers face in. Parker fights in a era where most guys land under 100 punches in 12 rounds.

        Who did Dubois stop who was worth mentioning? Joshua? You do realize Joshua got stopped by fatboy Andy Ruiz who isn't a huge puncher. Ruiz power had zero effect on a old Chris Arreola for crying out louid.

        Zhang is such a huge dangerous puncher than he couldn't stop Jerry Forrest while Gerlad Washington was able to destroy Forrest. So based off that Washington is a big puncher.

        A 41 year old Derek Chisora was able to drop Joyce. So is Chisora a world class puncher now? The same Chisora who's power couldn't faze a natural 200 pound David Haye years ago.

        So my point stands, Zhang knocking out a faded glass chin Wilder after light punching Fury knocked him out first doesn't equate to Zhang being a devastating puncher. Zhang knocking down Parker after Joe Joyce knocked him out first and Dillian Whyte dropped him twice doesn't equate to Zhang being a harder puncher. Zhang knocking out Joe Joyce after Joyce was stopped twice in the first round as a 28 year old amateur with big padded gloves and head gear doesn't make Zhang a big puncher.

        Zhang is a horrible fighter who is lucky to be in such a crap era. If Agit can't beat Zhang, Agit should retire

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        • #44
          Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

          Parker is durable because of what? Because you say so? Lol again Parker was knocked down twice by Dillian Whyte. Joe Joyce broke Parkers face in. Parker fights in a era where most guys land under 100 punches in 12 rounds.

          Who did Dubois stop who was worth mentioning? Joshua? You do realize Joshua got stopped by fatboy Andy Ruiz who isn't a huge puncher. Ruiz power had zero effect on a old Chris Arreola for crying out louid.

          Zhang is such a huge dangerous puncher than he couldn't stop Jerry Forrest while Gerlad Washington was able to destroy Forrest. So based off that Washington is a big puncher.

          A 41 year old Derek Chisora was able to drop Joyce. So is Chisora a world class puncher now? The same Chisora who's power couldn't faze a natural 200 pound David Haye years ago.

          So my point stands, Zhang knocking out a faded glass chin Wilder after light punching Fury knocked him out first doesn't equate to Zhang being a devastating puncher. Zhang knocking down Parker after Joe Joyce knocked him out first and Dillian Whyte dropped him twice doesn't equate to Zhang being a harder puncher. Zhang knocking out Joe Joyce after Joyce was stopped twice in the first round as a 28 year old amateur with big padded gloves and head gear doesn't make Zhang a big puncher.

          Zhang is a horrible fighter who is lucky to be in such a crap era. If Agit can't beat Zhang, Agit should retire
          All I've got from your ramblings in this thread is you don't think anyone punches hard.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

            There's nothing su****ious about Zhang, he's only a couple of years older than Usyk and he fights like an old man.

            Zhang has very little movement, is extremely conservative with his energy and relies on intelligence with setting traps and timing counters.

            He fights exactly how you'd expect an old man with a big punch to fight, there's a lot of similarities with comeback foreman except comeback foreman had more stamina than Zhang.
            The fights I saw with Foremen when he was old - he literally just stood there and absorbed punches and threw out the occasional punch. Nothing like Zhang. We all want to believe- I get it though

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            • #46
              Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

              All I've got from your ramblings in this thread is you don't think anyone punches hard.
              Lol there was no rambling. This is a grown man typing to a child who just repeats what he hears other people say. This is why we need a grown man part of this forum and a little kid part for people like you. To be considered a hard puncher you need to knock out world class guys with good chins. Zhang has never done this.

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