Comments Thread For: Zhilei Zhang calls himself an 'executor' ahead of Agit Kabayel fight

[BustedKnuckles]

I got Kabayel by UD. For both fighters, some of their best wins and performances haven't aged the best (Makhmudov, Joyce, Hrgovic,).

We know what Zhang is and isn't. I look forward to learning more about Kabayel's ceiling.

As for the fight, I see Agit boxing well enough to avoid the power of Zhang while investing in the body. When Zhang inevitably fades, Kabayel will take over the second half en route to w clear decision or even possibly a late TKO.

If he can avoid those Chinese fists, Kabayel is going for another body KO most def. That's what I'll be waiting for.

[PRINCEKOOL]

yeah wilder was clearing the division of bums

Deontay Wilder has the least impressive resume, out of the three Heavyweight Mountains 'But people must acknowledge that Wilder, did beat Luiz Ortiz twice. And Ortiz would have been another fighter, who Oleksandr Uysk? Would have had to of fought, if he was attempting to clear out the Heavyweight Division. That is why I stated? In combination Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder all effectively during their Championship reigns cleared out the Heavyweight Division'.

Oleksandr Uysk may be the best Heavyweight fighter currently right now 'But due to the extensive resumes of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder combined. I don't think really people can quite claim that Oleksandr Uysk is the best Heavyweight fighter of his era, to the same extent that Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis were during their careers'.

Uysk when he invaded the Heavyweight Division, all he needed to do was beat two fighters 'Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, that is it'. In comparison when Evander Holyfield entered into the Heavyweight Division, in the year 1988 against James Quick Tillis. The Heavyweight Division was entering into the second greatest era ever, in terms of pure ability and talent'.

Note: Without a shadow of a doubt, Oleksandr Uysk as of 2024 and going into 2025 is the best Heavyweight fighter in the world 'And he has track position, when it comes to claiming the titles as the best Heavyweight fighter of his era. But there is in my opinion, masses of evidence out there that may suggest? Uysk would of struggled to compete in the Heavyweight Division, if he would of invaded the Division earlier in his career.

In that regard Oleksandr Uysk has been fortunate, to invade the Heavyweight Division 'When he did'. The Heavyweight Division was pretty much already cleared out by Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. And potentially Fury, Joshua, Wilder were also not at their absolute peak form by the stage Uysk invaded the Division. When we analyse Oleksandr Uysk's Heavyweight career from this perspective, you will realize that? The task and challenge in front of him when he invaded the Heavyweight Division, was not as formidable or potentially brutal as the task and challenge that was in the way of Evander Holyfield or even David Haye to be the Heavyweight Champion of the World. Evander Holyfield had to fight his way through the second greatest Heavyweight era ever, and David Haye after he became the WBA World Heavyweight Champion had to face the last true all-time great Heavyweight Champion at his absolute peak. That fighter was Wladimir Kiltschko'.

I am still adamant that many people are completely overrating all of the current contenders active in the Heavyweight Division 'And especially those fighters who where all competing during the Heavyweight reigns of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder'.

I don't always agree with you but you are spot on here.

It's ridiculous to me that Wilder/Fury/AJ get no respect for their achievements yet fans get ridiculously over excited about prospects of a similar age who have achieved nothing.

They were hyping up Makhmudov not long ago because he had a scary face and eastern euro name, that was literally all the hype was based on.

That's boxing for you though, I've seen it time and time again, once Fury/Wilder/AJ have all retired for a few years and it's clear they aren't coming back they will begin to get due respect from fans.

To conclude: The interesting thing about 2025, is that Tyson Fury if he comes out of retirement, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder 'It is not totally unconceivable to envision those fighters, beating some of the contenders which many people in the boxing community are all now currently pining over'. In my opinion Joshua would of most likely beaten Dubois, if he did not wade into Dubois's power punch in round 5 amplifying it's power. The trajectory of that fight had already became quite clear from my observation? Anthony Joshua was from the very moment he was decked in the first round, after this point Joshua fought his way back into the fight. As the rounds went by Joshua was getting stronger, while Dubois's attacks became less effective. There is no way Joshua survives until round 5, if Dubois's attacks were all causing the same level of damage. In my opinion? In round 5 Daniel Dubois escaped a potential systematic beat down over the distance. Anthony Joshua wading forward with his guard down while throwing a uppercut, producing a uncharacteristic unforced error. Presented Dubois with his best opportunity to win the fight'.

The main point I am trying to make is? That none of the current top level Heavyweight fighters are invulnérable super high level. And I would not describe any of the Heavyweight Champions as dominant. 'Oleksandr Uysk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing, and pound for pound 'His wins over both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, are the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'. But regardless of those feats achieved, Uysk is not dominant Heavyweight fighter or Champion with his performances. Uysk is not dominant the same way Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson or Wladimir Kiltschko were as Champions.

And Daniel Dubois is potentially there for the taking, he is solid and aggressive fighter but? He has been historically a front runner at top level in the sport. Dubois still in my opinion has not proven beyond doubt that he has the ability to win against a top level fighter once it turns into a distance fight. In all of Daniel Dubois's true top level fights, the trajectory in those fights has been the same every single time 'Once the fight reaches the middle rounds, Daniel Dubois game on a multitude of levels begins to decrease. In those fights Dubois still showed that he was a solid level fighter, and he did displayed courage vs Joe Joyce 'To battle for all those rounds with a serious injury. But regardless, the trend and trajectory in Daniel Dubois's true top level fights is very clear to detect'.

It is no mysterious most top level Heavyweight fighters and their boxing coaches are all aware, of the blue print and template to beat Daniel Dubois etc.

[shawnkemp804]

It is hilarious how people act like Zhang is this world class puncher because he beat Joe Joyce. Joyce just got knocked down by Derek Chisora. Before he faced Zhang he was stopped twice in the first round as a 28 year old amateur with padded gloves and headgear. But because the clueless boxing media told you Joyce had a ATG chin the casuals believe it. Even him knocking down Joseph Parker didn't mean anything. Didn't Dillian Whyte drop Parker twice and Joyce stopped him. Zhang knocking out a 38 year old shot Wilder doesn't prove Zhang can punch because light punching Tyson Fury had already stopped Wilder twice.

Agit should win and he should do it easily.. Zhang was hurt badly by Jerry Forrest, he was dropped early on in his career by a guy who was 6 and 6 I believe. Agit should be able to stop Zhang as well.

[hugh grant]

It is hilarious how people act like Zhang is this world class puncher because he beat Joe Joyce. Joyce just got knocked down by Derek Chisora. Before he faced Zhang he was stopped twice in the first round as a 28 year old amateur with padded gloves and headgear. But because the clueless boxing media told you Joyce had a ATG chin the casuals believe it. Even him knocking down Joseph Parker didn't mean anything. Didn't Dillian Whyte drop Parker twice and Joyce stopped him. Zhang knocking out a 38 year old shot Wilder doesn't prove Zhang can punch because light punching Tyson Fury had already stopped Wilder twice.

Agit should win and he should do it easily.. Zhang was hurt badly by Jerry Forrest, he was dropped early on in his career by a guy who was 6 and 6 I believe. Agit should be able to stop Zhang as well.

But you heard it from Parker himself that Zhang hit harder than wilder. Zhang weakened Joyce chin, but chisora hits damn hard too. Dubois couldn't drop joyce.
Ajit can win for sure.

[shawnkemp804]

But you heard it from Parker himself that Zhang hit harder than wilder. Zhang weakened Joyce chin, but chisora hits damn hard too. Dubois couldn't drop joyce.
Ajit can win for sure.

Touching story, Wilder is also done. He didn't land anything flush on Parker. Dillian Whyte also dropped Parker twice and I never heard Parker say Whyte punched hard. If your boxing knowledge is just you repeat whatever this boxer said then maybe don't talk to me. If you think Chisora punches damn hard then clearly you aren't really a boxing fan. Joyce was also dropped as a 28 year old amateur. So wouldn't that mean his chin was weakened by those people before he even faced Zhang? The only person ever stopped in his career worth mentioning is a faded Anthony Joshua years after Andy Ruiz knocked him out first and nobody considers Ruiz to be a hard puncher. Ruiz landed numerous flush punches on old Chris Arreola and couldn't even hurt him. Bermaine Stiverne destroyed Arreola in their second bout. So Dubois knocking out a faded weak chin Joshua doesn't make him a huge puncher now. Zhang knocking out a 37 year old Joyce who was knocked out twice as a 28 year old amateur with head gear and big gloves doesn't make Zhang a huge puncher. Zhang knocking down Parker doesn't make Zhang a huge puncher. Parker saying Zhang punches harder than a faded Wilder who never landed anything flush doesn't mean Zhang is a huge puncher. Also who in the hell did Wilder ever knock out any way? A 50 year old Luis Oriz.

But anyway just because a fight says something doesn't mean it is true. For example Chris Byrd said Davaryll Williamson was the harder puncher he ever faced. Sure Williamson didn't stop Byrd, knock down Byrd or even seem to bother Byrd. Wlad knocked out Byrd and Ike Ibeabuchi hit Byrd so bad he got up drooling and he never said these guys punched hard

[JakeTheBoxer]

Kabayel wins this I believe. Zhang is too slow.

[pollywog]

Dillian Whyte also dropped Parker twice and I never heard Parker say Whyte punched hard...

Just to clarify. Whyte hits hard!!! However...

Parker was knocked down by a Whyte headbutt in the 2nd round. It was called as a punch.

Parker got up, fought through the concussion effects of the head clash, but got legitimately dropped in the 9th round.

He got up again and fought on, dropping Whyte who was out on his feet in the 12th.

Despite 4 warnings Whyte was never deducted a point, was saved the bell and awarded the decision.

It was a hell of a fight against a probably roided Prime Dillan in his glory days.

That fight was way better than Parker's previous one - where dubious reffing was also a factor - against a Prime Joshua who couldnt put a dent in Parker.

Those fights were what they were. Both winners having ducked a Parker rematch in the 7 years since.

And now here we are. Whyte and AJ are shot. Parker is in his prime and fighting for another title he with a very good chance of winning.

His opponent also favours the headbutt as legitimate offense, along with lowblows but is also fierce puncher.

Let's hope for a clean reffed fight, competent judges and may the better man win.

[shawnkemp804]

Just to clarify. Whyte hits hard!!! However...

Parker was knocked down by a Whyte headbutt in the 2nd round. It was called as a punch.

Parker got up, fought through the concussion effects of the head clash, but got legitimately dropped in the 9th round.

He got up again and fought on, dropping Whyte who was out on his feet in the 12th.

Despite 4 warnings Whyte was never deducted a point, was saved the bell and awarded the decision.

It was a hell of a fight against a probably roided Prime Dillan in his glory days.

That fight was way better than Parker's previous one - where dubious reffing was also a factor - against a Prime Joshua who couldnt put a dent in Parker.

Those fights were what they were. Both winners having ducked a Parker rematch in the 7 years since.

And now here we are. Whyte and AJ are shot. Parker is in his prime and fighting for another title he with a very good chance of winning.

His opponent also favours the headbutt as legitimate offense, along with lowblows but is also fierce puncher.

Let's hope for a clean reffed fight, competent judges and may the better man win.

To Clarify name one world class elite fighter in his prime that Whyte knocked out? His best KO win was over a 50 year old Alexander Povetkin. Whyte also got knocked out by the same Povetkin with one punch. Whyte was never anything special. The only thing he will be known for when he retires is being knocked out and failing steroid test. Yet he still dropped Parker, end of story.

So Zhang knocking down Parker doesn't mean Zhang has world class power now. Zhang knocking out Joyce a guy who was stopped 2 times as a 28 year older with head gear and big gloves doesn't make Zhang a huge puncher.

Zhang isn't anything special and should lost against Agit.

[pollywog]

Zhang, Joyce and Whyte have dropped Parker, who has a decent set of whiskers. That means they hit hard!

Joshua, Wilder and Ruiz couldn't. What does that say ?

[MarbleFallsMauler]

Gotta laugh at the " I got Kabayel by ko" posts.
Win? Maybe. But Big **** isn't getting ko'd rught now.