Comments Thread For: With Errol Spence Jnr out, Sebastian Fundora to turn to others and likely March 29 date

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  • Roadblock
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    #111
    Originally posted by MulaKO

    I think he really didn’t expect Bud to be so damn good
    Maybe your right
    Thats also in line with how bad Spence looked, to my eyes, it was more than Bud; he just looked really off and then add how good TC is and you have destruction like TC will never have again, Im a TC fan and take nothing away from him but Spence was messed up before the bell rang, he wouldn't have won anyway but he would have had more zip in him.

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    • MulaKO
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      #112
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      Thats also in line with how bad Spence looked, to my eyes, it was more than Bud; he just looked really off and then add how good TC is and you have destruction like TC will never have again, Im a TC fan and take nothing away from him but Spence was messed up before the bell rang, he wouldn't have won anyway but he would have had more zip in him.
      I get what you guys are saying but I’m not sold
      He looked really damn good fighting Ugas and Garcia

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        #113
        Originally posted by MulaKO

        I get what you guys are saying but I’m not sold
        He looked really damn good fighting Ugas and Garcia
        He did against those guys, different camp different time, whatever was going on who knows, he just looked off to me with no resistance, had that ragdoll drained fighter look, I have no proof of anything Im just saying how he looked to me, maybe the Ferrari, the occasion and TC beaten on him it all come home to roost.
        Last edited by Roadblock; 01-17-2025, 11:45 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          He did against those guys, different camp different time, whatever was going on who knows, he just looked off to me with no resistance, had that ragdoll drained fighter look, I have no proof of anything Im just saying how he looked to me, maybe the Ferrari, the occasion and TC beaten on him it all come home to roost.
          Yrah I hear you
          Maybe just weight drained ?
          I just find it hard to believe after Si much time passed
          I get the funny feeling that had he won , we wouldn’t be discussing this

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          • Roadblock
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            #115
            Originally posted by MulaKO

            Yrah I hear you
            Maybe just weight drained ?
            I just find it hard to believe after Si much time passed
            I get the funny feeling that had he won , we wouldn’t be discussing this
            Off course had he won we wouldnt be talking about this, winning rarely exposes something thats wrong but losing hits you on the head with it thats just competition.

            We will never know and records will show he got smashed, TC looked great.

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              #116
              Originally posted by LAchargers373

              It’s bumfundora should’ve given tsyzu his rematch instead of sitting on the sidelines waiting fight a retired Spence. Idc what anyone says this is nonsense. I hope he gets absolutely beat down in his next fight eff him
              He wasn't allowed to. Not sure why the concept of an ordered fight from the WBO is so hard for you. Crawford petitioned for, and received, permission to have his fight with Madrimov count as an interim fight. If he'd rematched Tszyu, he would have lost his belt.

              "Sebastian Fundora must defend his WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship against the WBO Interim Champion no later than December 31, 2024. Failure to comply with this condition will result in the WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship being declared vacant 'Ipso Facto' and the WBO Interim Champion be elevated to "Full Champion" status automatically."

              He was willing to honor the rematch clause, but would have lost the WBO belt. That's why Tszyu chose to go for the IBF belt, and had already been told he would get a rematch with the winner of Bud v Fundora. But then Murtazaliev was too much for him, and Bud decided it was Canelo or nothing, so Fundora was stuck twiddling his thumbs until Dec 31 when the time limit expired through the fault of Bud.

              You can get in your feelings about it, but it's genuinely not on Fundora, who was willing to fight Bud or Tszyu, who both chose to go another way even though they had legally enforceable rights to fight.

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                #117
                idont begrudge errol another payday he had a hard time v bud i personally thinkhes finished and not fighting the tall dude is a good call, id say haymon might not be too happy about errol tho as errol said on twiiter he will fighitn when HE'S ready making a point it seems to me as wont be rushed into a fight that others want he should not fight a puncher tho

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by BirdSong
                  idont begrudge errol another payday he had a hard time v bud i personally thinkhes finished and not fighting the tall dude is a good call, id say haymon might not be too happy about errol tho as errol said on twiiter he will fighitn when HE'S ready making a point it seems to me as wont be rushed into a fight that others want he should not fight a puncher tho
                  What I hate is he will be given a turd so to say and will look phenomenal
                  Just to be knocked out in his next fight for big money which I have no problem with
                  My problem is between those two fights his fans will all be here claiming chit and once he loses it will be back to the same chit ; damaged goods and the car accident
                  smfh

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by MulaKO

                    What I hate is he will be given a turd so to say and will look phenomenal
                    Just to be knocked out in his next fight for big money which I have no problem with
                    My problem is between those two fights his fans will all be here claiming chit and once he loses it will be back to the same chit ; damaged goods and the car accident
                    smfh
                    Hey brother fans talk sht, you know what you know they dont matter a lot of them are teenagers that know nothing but think they know it all, thats why they called fans its short for fanatic dont let them bother you.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Groin Grabber

                      1. That's absolutely ridiculous. No fighter in pbc negotiations for themselves. Aside from having managers and advisor( which is haymons official title) they still can't get the greenlight til the man says so. Idk how that's so hard to understand.

                      2. Information isn't fact so I'm glad you chose that word wisely. Nothing to debunk. Pbc was for the fight til the fans and wbo weren't so that's why it didn't go thru. That simple. Not to mention spencerina doesn't even have a trainer.
                      I think the OP is referring to Spence signing with Fighters first management before the Crawford fight. They were instrumental in getting the fight done because Haymon didn’t want to do it, mainly because he couldn’t guarantee the purses so PBC wouldn’t have total control over the fight, although they did promote our co promote, I can’t recall.

                      Spence going for the Fundora fight was PBC just trying to block Bud since he effectively killed one of their remaining marketable fighters. The same reason Spence sat on the rematch clause for so long since Bud couldn’t make a move until he formally declined which he did when he had the other eye surgery.
                      Last edited by SweetPbfAli; 01-20-2025, 02:37 AM.

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