Comments Thread For: With Errol Spence Jnr out, Sebastian Fundora to turn to others and likely March 29 date

[MulaKO]

I suppose this was the right decision for Errol Spence Junior 'People must understand? That Spence Junior has only been beaten once in his career, by Terrence Crawford. I don't think Spence Junior needs to take any unnecessary fights, while he is underprepared at this stage of his career'.

I am still very impressed by how Errol Spence Junior, reacted earlier in his career to his accident 'Due to the severity of the accident, and his injuries. Nobody at the time was really expecting Spence Junior, to jump back into competitive action at World level'.

I personally thought? It would of been sensible for him to vacate his titles and just take a few ticking over opponent's 'Errol Spence Junior would of still be undefeated, and people within the boxing community would all still regard him as number 1 even without a World title'.

But instead Errol Spence Junior made his comeback vs Danny Garcia 'At a time in his career, when he was a genuine World level fighter. I have always regarded that performance as one of Spence Junior's best ever victories, when you factor in the entire situation that he was battling through'.

Errol Spence Junior clearly holds himself to a extremely high standard 'Compare Spence Junior's conduct, to Deontay Wilder's. Wilder is very content with fighting a domestic level American heavyweight fighter for his comeback. While Spence Junior was jumping straight back into a World title fight vs Sebastian Fundora at 154 pounds'.

That attitude from Spence Junior is why? He could still potentially achieve some great feats in this latter part of his career 'If he is able to train consistently, and build back some solid momentum'.

Note: I honestly think non title fights against Ryan Garcia and Israil Madrimov would be great fights for Errol Spence Junior 'Both of those fights are actually bigger or on par with the Spence Junior vs Fundora match up. In terms of the share level of intrigue and jeopardy of the fights'.

Interesting, I see that Errol Spence Junior promotes himself now and a few other fighters such as Frank Martin 'That will give Spence Junior a lot of range and scope to what potential moves he can make next in his career. That is why moving forward, I think that Errol Spence Junior should consider being involved in mega fights that are not necessarily title fights'.

To conclude: Errol Spence Junior has already been a World Champion for many years, and his last fight was a Undisputed title fight against Terrene Crawford 'Who is rated as one of the Top 2 best pound for pound fighters in the World. Depending on how individual people rate fighters and their feats of achievement, currently right now? The pound for pound best fighter in the World is ether Oleksandr Uysk or Terrence Crawford'.

'Oleksandr Uysk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing, and pound for pound 'His wins over both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, are the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.

But skill for skill and technically Terrence Crawford is most likely a superior fighter. When Crawford has fought his nearest competition, he has beaten them comprehensively by quite a distance. Oleksandr Uysk in comparison has not been dominant to that type of level.

I have personally have rated in the past Oleksandr Uysk as the pound for pound number 1 fighter in the World 'And this is because in my opinion? 'No fighters in the lower weight divisions, have achieved any feats on the level of him beating both Anthony Joshua twice and Tyson Fury'.

The main point I am trying to make is? Errol Spence Junior has only been beaten, when he fought at the absolute pinnacle of the sport. Winning another World title potentially vs Sebastian Fundora, does not really add much to his resume. Errol Spence Junior has solidified his greatness within this era, he is been one of the best fighters of his generation'.

I just think that now he can charted his own path in the game, and chose which fights he wants to compete in. 'While he is building back momentum in his career, Spence Junior should consider fights that are big events beyond the World title's. If Errol Spence Junior is able to win at this level, eventually World title opportunities will come his way' etc.

Errol Spence Junior has solidified his greatness within this era, he is been one of the best fighters of his generation'.

You gotta be kidding me
Besides making long ass posts , irrelevant most of the time , I can truly say as irrelevant as your quirk I posted
The other side of the street tho

Lmfao

[PRINCEKOOL]

I suppose this was the right decision for Errol Spence Junior 'People must understand? That Spence Junior has only been beaten once in his career, by Terrence Crawford. I don't think Spence Junior needs to take any unnecessary fights, while he is underprepared at this stage of his career'.

I am still very impressed by how Errol Spence Junior, reacted earlier in his career to his accident 'Due to the severity of the accident, and his injuries. Nobody at the time was really expecting Spence Junior, to jump back into competitive action at World level'.

I personally thought? It would of been sensible for him to vacate his titles and just take a few ticking over opponent's 'Errol Spence Junior would of still be undefeated, and people within the boxing community would all still regard him as number 1 even without a World title'.

But instead Errol Spence Junior made his comeback vs Danny Garcia 'At a time in his career, when he was a genuine World level fighter. I have always regarded that performance as one of Spence Junior's best ever victories, when you factor in the entire situation that he was battling through'.

Errol Spence Junior clearly holds himself to a extremely high standard 'Compare Spence Junior's conduct, to Deontay Wilder's. Wilder is very content with fighting a domestic level American heavyweight fighter for his comeback. While Spence Junior was jumping straight back into a World title fight vs Sebastian Fundora at 154 pounds'.

That attitude from Spence Junior is why? He could still potentially achieve some great feats in this latter part of his career 'If he is able to train consistently, and build back some solid momentum'.

Note: I honestly think non title fights against Ryan Garcia and Israil Madrimov would be great fights for Errol Spence Junior 'Both of those fights are actually bigger or on par with the Spence Junior vs Fundora match up. In terms of the share level of intrigue and jeopardy of the fights'.

Interesting, I see that Errol Spence Junior promotes himself now and a few other fighters such as Frank Martin 'That will give Spence Junior a lot of range and scope to what potential moves he can make next in his career. That is why moving forward, I think that Errol Spence Junior should consider being involved in mega fights that are not necessarily title fights'.

To conclude: Errol Spence Junior has already been a World Champion for many years, and his last fight was a Undisputed title fight against Terrene Crawford 'Who is rated as one of the Top 2 best pound for pound fighters in the World. Depending on how individual people rate fighters and their feats of achievement, currently right now? The pound for pound best fighter in the World is ether Oleksandr Uysk or Terrence Crawford'.

'Oleksandr Uysk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing, and pound for pound 'His wins over both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, are the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.

But skill for skill and technically Terrence Crawford is most likely a superior fighter. When Crawford has fought his nearest competition, he has beaten them comprehensively by quite a distance. Oleksandr Uysk in comparison has not been dominant to that type of level.

I have personally have rated in the past Oleksandr Uysk as the pound for pound number 1 fighter in the World 'And this is because in my opinion? 'No fighters in the lower weight divisions, have achieved any feats on the level of him beating both Anthony Joshua twice and Tyson Fury'.

The main point I am trying to make is? Errol Spence Junior has only been beaten, when he fought at the absolute pinnacle of the sport. Winning another World title potentially vs Sebastian Fundora, does not really add much to his resume. Errol Spence Junior has solidified his greatness within this era, he is been one of the best fighters of his generation'.

I just think that now he can charted his own path in the game, and chose which fights he wants to compete in. 'While he is building back momentum in his career, Spence Junior should consider fights that are big events beyond the World title's. If Errol Spence Junior is able to win at this level, eventually World title opportunities will come his way' etc.

[BlackRobb]

Poor Stanionis. At this stage he probably dreams of ending up with a career like Demetrius Andrade. Should’ve signed with Eddie.

The same Eddie who did nothing for Andrade and Farmer and is doing nothing for Bootie Ennis?

[joesaiditstrue]

I'll guarantee one thing, it wasn't Fundora who came up unable to prepare for the fight.

I told everyone that when this fight was announced, it would never come to fruition. Spence was way out of shape and had no coach and hadn't been in the gym in over a year

people told me I didn't know what I was talking about about

who's laughing now you dumb ****s?

[SweetPbfAli]

1. That's absolutely ridiculous. No fighter in pbc negotiations for themselves. Aside from having managers and advisor( which is haymons official title) they still can't get the greenlight til the man says so. Idk how that's so hard to understand.

2. Information isn't fact so I'm glad you chose that word wisely. Nothing to debunk. Pbc was for the fight til the fans and wbo weren't so that's why it didn't go thru. That simple. Not to mention spencerina doesn't even have a trainer.

I think the OP is referring to Spence signing with Fighters first management before the Crawford fight. They were instrumental in getting the fight done because Haymon didn’t want to do it, mainly because he couldn’t guarantee the purses so PBC wouldn’t have total control over the fight, although they did promote our co promote, I can’t recall.

Spence going for the Fundora fight was PBC just trying to block Bud since he effectively killed one of their remaining marketable fighters. The same reason Spence sat on the rematch clause for so long since Bud couldn’t make a move until he formally declined which he did when he had the other eye surgery.

[Roadblock]

What I hate is he will be given a turd so to say and will look phenomenal
Just to be knocked out in his next fight for big money which I have no problem with
My problem is between those two fights his fans will all be here claiming chit and once he loses it will be back to the same chit ; damaged goods and the car accident
smfh

Hey brother fans talk sht, you know what you know they dont matter a lot of them are teenagers that know nothing but think they know it all, thats why they called fans its short for fanatic dont let them bother you.

[MulaKO]

idont begrudge errol another payday he had a hard time v bud i personally thinkhes finished and not fighting the tall dude is a good call, id say haymon might not be too happy about errol tho as errol said on twiiter he will fighitn when HE'S ready making a point it seems to me as wont be rushed into a fight that others want he should not fight a puncher tho

What I hate is he will be given a turd so to say and will look phenomenal
Just to be knocked out in his next fight for big money which I have no problem with
My problem is between those two fights his fans will all be here claiming chit and once he loses it will be back to the same chit ; damaged goods and the car accident
smfh

[BirdSong]

idont begrudge errol another payday he had a hard time v bud i personally thinkhes finished and not fighting the tall dude is a good call, id say haymon might not be too happy about errol tho as errol said on twiiter he will fighitn when HE'S ready making a point it seems to me as wont be rushed into a fight that others want he should not fight a puncher tho

[crimsonfalcon07]

It’s bumfundora should’ve given tsyzu his rematch instead of sitting on the sidelines waiting fight a retired Spence. Idc what anyone says this is nonsense. I hope he gets absolutely beat down in his next fight eff him

He wasn't allowed to. Not sure why the concept of an ordered fight from the WBO is so hard for you. Crawford petitioned for, and received, permission to have his fight with Madrimov count as an interim fight. If he'd rematched Tszyu, he would have lost his belt.

"Sebastian Fundora must defend his WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship against the WBO Interim Champion no later than December 31, 2024. Failure to comply with this condition will result in the WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship being declared vacant 'Ipso Facto' and the WBO Interim Champion be elevated to "Full Champion" status automatically."

He was willing to honor the rematch clause, but would have lost the WBO belt. That's why Tszyu chose to go for the IBF belt, and had already been told he would get a rematch with the winner of Bud v Fundora. But then Murtazaliev was too much for him, and Bud decided it was Canelo or nothing, so Fundora was stuck twiddling his thumbs until Dec 31 when the time limit expired through the fault of Bud.

You can get in your feelings about it, but it's genuinely not on Fundora, who was willing to fight Bud or Tszyu, who both chose to go another way even though they had legally enforceable rights to fight.

[Roadblock]

Yrah I hear you
Maybe just weight drained ?
I just find it hard to believe after Si much time passed
I get the funny feeling that had he won , we wouldn’t be discussing this

Off course had he won we wouldnt be talking about this, winning rarely exposes something thats wrong but losing hits you on the head with it thats just competition.

We will never know and records will show he got smashed, TC looked great.