Why did HBO and Showtime leave boxing?

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  • MulaKO
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    #41
    Originally posted by PRvazquez

    Ayo imma tell you Crawford can’t go to 168 at his age and beat Canelo . Stop the Soviet stop the dreaming . Stop the anti epileptic nonsense. It’s hard on your liver and brain. You need to go away . I’m sorry
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    Yo

    Yo

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    • PRvazquez
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      #42
      Originally posted by MulaKO

      image.jpg​T-Kitty

      Yo

      Yo
      I make sense you don’t

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      • PRvazquez
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        #43
        HBO had the best format period. Can someone just copy it . Great theme music too

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        • MulaKO
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          #44
          Originally posted by PRvazquez

          I make sense you don’t
          Is that you T-Kitty

          and all

          Soviet Style

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          • OnePunch
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            #45
            The demise started with Haymon. He did 2 things, he devalued boxing content (gave it away for free, actually BUYING airtime on numerous platforms) in an effort to try and put his competitors out of business (which failed spectacularly), and he allowed fighters to make unrealistic financial demands, and to become more and more inactive, which absolutely kills fan interest. HBO tried to work around it, first with an emphasis on hispanic fighters, and then the eastern Europeans. It was just a band aid, and not sustainable. Eventually they decided it wasn't worth it anymore, too difficult to make decent fights.

            And even though Espinosa was basically Haymon's cabana boy, eventually even Showtime said enough is enough.......
            Last edited by OnePunch; 01-08-2025, 12:13 AM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              The demise started with Haymon. He did 2 things, he devalued boxing content (gave it away for free, actually BUYING airtime on numerous platforms) in an effort to try and put his competitors out of business (which failed spectacularly), and he allowed fighters to make unrealistic financial demands, and to become more and more inactive, which absolutely kills fan interest. HBO tried to work around it, first with an emphasis on hispanic fighters, and then the eastern Europeans. It was just a band aid, and not sustainable. Eventually they decided it wasnt worth it anymore, too difficult to make decent fights.......
              I always said that Haymon was a cancer

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              • paulf
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                #47
                Nothing lasts forever, baby.

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                • NihonJim
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                  #48
                  Haymon killed showtime.

                  HBO sunk a lot of money into the likes of Andre Berto and people like that. After the Mayweather/Pacquiao debacle the sport had really been rebuilding ever since.

                  Back in the day on HBO you had Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, Alvarez coming through, you know there was a lot of big money draws, but boxing has been struggling for money draws like that for the past 10-15 years, Crawford, Usyk, Inoue (outside Japan) these guys just aren't the same money draws as the previous generation.

                  Additionally boxing has spread out a lot more from America since then. 15 years ago at any weight class outside heavyweight the best fighters were probably American, now that's definitely not the case and american networks don't want to invest money into foreigners.

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                  • NihonJim
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by PRvazquez
                    HBO had the best format period. Can someone just copy it . Great theme music too
                    I agree, HBO was class, they knew how to make fights feel big.

                    DAZN, ESPN and the rest just don't match up, the production quality isn't anywhere near what HBO used to put out.

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                    • brettWall
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tomhawq
                      Probably because of inactive greedy fighters. Promoters barely break even, they even lose money, and they still have regular employees to take care of.
                      "I'm risking my life doe." GTFOH. As if everyone is forcing them to be in this profession. Hey, look for regular jobs mtrfkrs just like billions of people survive on this earth doing something else. Soldiers, police, firefighters, garbage collectors are risking their lives too yet have zero potential of earning millions. Zero.​
                      Good points. Can't disagree with that.

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