Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Fantasy fights, Canelo Alvarez-Terence Crawford and more

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There’s really no chance. Kaulvuskis would flatline him if he landed the shots Karen did. And Bohachuk? If you think bootsy could beat him don’t you think his promoter would try to make the fight? Bohanchuk would end bootsys career dude don’t play. And Why duck Ortiz after they called him out and said the fight was “a done deal” and bootsy said “I need to go to 154 I’m too big for 47”. As a fan…does that not that send you red flags? What’s indisputable is they turned down Ortiz after calling him and claiming the fight was a done deal, they refused to pay Brian Norman an extra 300k for a unification, they’ve never attempted to make a fight with stannois. The only person bootsy apparently is willing to fight is Mario barrios, who, as I’ve pointed out several times, has been KTFO by a LW and got schooled by semi retired old ass Keith Thurman. So objectively it looks to me like you and bread man are going on emotion and what you hope bootsy is. The reality is he’s 28 in a few months and has never had a relevant fight in his career and turned down the only relevant fight he was offered after begging for it. You wanna love the dude that’s on you lol

It’s funny because I never even said anything that even remotely praises boots. I only agreed with bread that it’s not unthinkable that he could do things that could throw Oscar off. No one said he’d beat him. Then you went to the next level saying he’d have “no chance” at beating kaulvuskis or bohanchuk and again, I pointed out your delusional and your obvious emotional stance that isn’t based on boxing reality. I pointed out your hypocrisy about Ortiz and all you did was prove me right by trying to act as if he defeated some top elite fighters and propped up those two fighters he beat (one of them controversially) Your stance on boxing and boxers is primarily based on whether or not the boxer you’re assessing is Mexican/ Mexican American. You have unreasonable stances on boots and Ortiz. One of unreasonable hate and one of unreasonable adoration. If boots was named Javier Botas Ennischez from Jalisco, your stance would be different.

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It’s funny because I never even said anything that even remotely praises boots. I only agreed with bread that it’s not unthinkable that he could do things that could throw Oscar off. No one said he’d beat him. Then you went to the next level saying he’d have “no chance” at beating kaulvuskis or bohanchuk and again, I pointed out your delusional and your obvious emotional stance that isn’t based on boxing reality. I pointed out your hypocrisy about Ortiz and all you did was prove me right by trying to act as if he defeated some top elite fighters and propped up those two fighters he beat (one of them controversially) Your stance on boxing and boxers is primarily based on whether or not the boxer you’re assessing is Mexican/ Mexican American. You have unreasonable stances on boots and Ortiz. One of unreasonable hate and one of unreasonable adoration. If boots was named Javier Botas Ennischez from Jalisco, your stance would be different.

Are you ******? Why would you bring race into this conversation? This has NOTHING to do with race. If you go through my posts I used to be a big bootsy supporter. This has nothing to do with the colour of his skin or nationality. I’m Indian. You’re bias is ridiculous and as I pointed out it’s you and breadman who are emotional obviously trying to defend fellow “brothas” because you have the same skin colour. Let me tell you something kid, we all bleed red. What does being American Canadian Cuban Indian Mexican black white orange green have to do with ducking fights you called out? What does any of that have to do with being 28 years old and not having a relevant fight in your entire career while going around telling the public everyone is ducking you? Take your racist emotional mentality to you black panther meeting I’m just calling a spade a spade. Or in this case..a duck a duck. Dude couldn’t even throw a Karen off but now you idiots want to say he’d give ODLH trouble…keep dreaming lol. Maybe he could maybe he couldn’t but the fact to even say that after this guy at 28 has done absolutely nothing in the sport of boxing except duck the only competitive fight offered him is just asinine. Again goes to show your emotional state trying to defend fighters just because you share the same skin colour as them. Newsflash: this isn’t a civil rights debate we’re talking boxing. And I reiterate bootsy has 0 chance of beating Bohachuk. He could beat kalvuskis at this point but no chance he beats Bohachuk

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Are you ******? Why would you bring race into this conversation? This has NOTHING to do with race. If you go through my posts I used to be a big bootsy supporter. This has nothing to do with the colour of his skin or nationality. I’m Indian. You’re bias is ridiculous and as I pointed out it’s you and breadman who are emotional obviously trying to defend fellow “brothas” because you have the same skin colour. Let me tell you something kid, we all bleed red. What does being American Canadian Cuban Indian Mexican black white orange green have to do with ducking fights you called out? What does any of that have to do with being 28 years old and not having a relevant fight in your entire career while going around telling the public everyone is ducking you? Take your racist emotional mentality to you black panther meeting I’m just calling a spade a spade. Or in this case..a duck a duck. Dude couldn’t even throw a Karen off but now you idiots want to say he’d give ODLH trouble…keep dreaming lol. Maybe he could maybe he couldn’t but the fact to even say that after this guy at 28 has done absolutely nothing in the sport of boxing except duck the only competitive fight offered him is just asinine. Again goes to show your emotional state trying to defend fighters just because you share the same skin colour as them. Newsflash: this isn’t a civil rights debate we’re talking boxing. And I reiterate bootsy has 0 chance of beating Bohachuk. He could beat kalvuskis at this point but no chance he beats Bohachuk

I’m not black and you’re clearly biased in your stances on boxers. Get mad all you want but what you say lacks any level of common sense and is clearly based on emotion. No boots could never even throw Oscar off at any point in a 12 round fight. No he has absolutely 0 chance of beating 2 guys Ortiz beat. Oh but Ortiz is fighting at an elite level. Yeah ok.

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I’m not black and you’re clearly biased in your stances on boxers. Get mad all you want but what you say lacks any level of common sense and is clearly based on emotion. No boots could never even throw Oscar off at any point in a 12 round fight. No he has absolutely 0 chance of beating 2 guys Ortiz beat. Oh but Ortiz is fighting at an elite level. Yeah ok.

We all know bootsy would never fight Oscar anyways the whole conversation is a moot point to throw someone off you’d have to fight them. 28 years old in June and will have had 0 count them 0 notable opponents. Let me show you something maybe you missed it:

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bootsy says he wants all the names at 54 he needs better opponents.
Eddie says they’re ready to go for Feb 22

we all know how that turned out.

so don’t accuse me of any racist bigot nonsense. I like Ortiz over ennis because ennis straight up ducked him after calling him out. I never heard Ortiz mention bootsy ever. So you can think your boy bootsy is some kind of special can throw off HOF type of fighter but the reality is if you not a straight up walk forward in a line fighter bootsy has problems with that. Dudes a hype job. Think Demetrius Andrade. Supreme talent no heart

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We all know bootsy would never fight Oscar anyways the whole conversation is a moot point to throw someone off you’d have to fight them. 28 years old in June and will have had 0 count them 0 notable opponents. Let me show you something maybe you missed it:

https://*************/watch?v=aYrF-d...4gcmluZw%3D%3D

bootsy says he wants all the names at 54 he needs better opponents.
Eddie says they’re ready to go for Feb 22

we all know how that turned out.

so don’t accuse me of any racist bigot nonsense. I like Ortiz over ennis because ennis straight up ducked him after calling him out. I never heard Ortiz mention bootsy ever. So you can think your boy bootsy is some kind of special can throw off HOF type of fighter but the reality is if you not a straight up walk forward in a line fighter bootsy has problems with that. Dudes a hype job. Think Demetrius Andrade. Supreme talent no heart

So you’re trying to say he wouldn’t fight Oscar when it’s literally a mythical matchup that was posted in the mailbag? Lmaooo. I can’t with you. You’re consumed with hate to the point of being irrational. At least my dislike for Canelo is based on facts and backed with facts. You just want to claim something to be true because that’s what you want to be the case, no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. But I’ll appease you l…..Believe what you want:
Sure, Oscar would beat boots so badly that boots wouldn’t even have a second of success because Oscar was untouchable at 147. The punch stats would be 299 to O in Oscar’s favor.
Yeah boots ducked Ortiz because he didn’t want to give up his belt and move up a weight class to fight a non champion who has never been champion and has 0 pull as opposed to trying to unify in the division he’s in. That makes perfect sense. Any other boxer would’ve had no problem moving up and giving up their title to fight an unaccomplished Ortiz on an undercard.
also, Kaulvuskis And bohachuk are super elite fighters who are hall of fame bound. We should place Ortiz on top of the p4p list for those wins even if one was controversial.
You happy now?

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So you’re trying to say he wouldn’t fight Oscar when it’s literally a mythical matchup that was posted in the mailbag? Lmaooo. I can’t with you. You’re consumed with hate to the point of being irrational. At least my dislike for Canelo is based on facts and backed with facts. You just want to claim something to be true because that’s what you want to be the case, no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. But I’ll appease you l…..Believe what you want:
Sure, Oscar would beat boots so badly that boots wouldn’t even have a second of success because Oscar was untouchable at 147. The punch stats would be 299 to O in Oscar’s favor.
Yeah boots ducked Ortiz because he didn’t want to give up his belt and move up a weight class to fight a non champion who has never been champion and has 0 pull as opposed to trying to unify in the division he’s in. That makes perfect sense. Any other boxer would’ve had no problem moving up and giving up their title to fight an unaccomplished Ortiz on an undercard.
also, Kaulvuskis And bohachuk are super elite fighters who are hall of fame bound. We should place Ortiz on top of the p4p list for those wins even if one was controversial.
You happy now?

Hey man I just showed you on video where bootsy and his promoter called out Ortiz and said it’s a done deal. Did you miss BOTH the Karen fights? Karen is the best BOXER that bootsy has fought and there was nothing bootsy did that confused or befuddled him. He was just athletically limited and the smaller man. If bootsy fought Oscar i see 10-2 to 8-4 range depending on what form de le Hoya was in. Oscar winning 8-4 is on his worst day. And ya I agree Bohachuk and kalvauskis ARENT special. And Bohachuk would MOP bootsy. Maybe not old kaulvauskis anymore but Bohachuk ends bootsys pathetic career lol. You actually seem like a pretty knowledgeable boxing guy so try to look at this objectively. Bootsy is 28 bro. 28. What great fighter in history has never had a notable fight by the age of 28? 31 fights in been boxing his whole life he’s not some late bloomer who started the sport late in life. Even rolly Romero has a more accomplished career than bootsy they are the same age and rolly started training at 17 years old lol. What notable fight is there at 147 that’s bigger or would get more respect than beating Ortiz? You can keep drinking the kool aid and love this hype job but that’s on you

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So you’re trying to say he wouldn’t fight Oscar when it’s literally a mythical matchup that was posted in the mailbag? Lmaooo. I can’t with you. You’re consumed with hate to the point of being irrational. At least my dislike for Canelo is based on facts and backed with facts. You just want to claim something to be true because that’s what you want to be the case, no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. But I’ll appease you l…..Believe what you want:
Sure, Oscar would beat boots so badly that boots wouldn’t even have a second of success because Oscar was untouchable at 147. The punch stats would be 299 to O in Oscar’s favor.
Yeah boots ducked Ortiz because he didn’t want to give up his belt and move up a weight class to fight a non champion who has never been champion and has 0 pull as opposed to trying to unify in the division he’s in. That makes perfect sense. Any other boxer would’ve had no problem moving up and giving up their title to fight an unaccomplished Ortiz on an undercard.
also, Kaulvuskis And bohachuk are super elite fighters who are hall of fame bound. We should place Ortiz on top of the p4p list for those wins even if one was controversial.
You happy now?

Also Ortiz is now fighting Madrimov and before had had ryhambadobalis or whatever he was going to fight stannois. And he’s a 3 years younger than bootsy. These are all facts I know you want to pull the race card but as I keep saying a duck is a duck a hype job is a hype job a spade is a spade call it what it is

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Hey man I just showed you on video where bootsy and his promoter called out Ortiz and said it’s a done deal. Did you miss BOTH the Karen fights? Karen is the best BOXER that bootsy has fought and there was nothing bootsy did that confused or befuddled him. He was just athletically limited and the smaller man. If bootsy fought Oscar i see 10-2 to 8-4 range depending on what form de le Hoya was in. Oscar winning 8-4 is on his worst day. And ya I agree Bohachuk and kalvauskis ARENT special. And Bohachuk would MOP bootsy. Maybe not old kaulvauskis anymore but Bohachuk ends bootsys pathetic career lol. You actually seem like a pretty knowledgeable boxing guy so try to look at this objectively. Bootsy is 28 bro. 28. What great fighter in history has never had a notable fight by the age of 28? 31 fights in been boxing his whole life he’s not some late bloomer who started the sport late in life. Even rolly Romero has a more accomplished career than bootsy they are the same age and rolly started training at 17 years old lol. What notable fight is there at 147 that’s bigger or would get more respect than beating Ortiz? You can keep drinking the kool aid and love this hype job but that’s on you

Your link didn’t work and I also saw after last fight in the press conference where he said that he made weight comfortably and would also like to unify. What boxers pick moving up to fight non champion over unifying?

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But how does bootsy ootsy beat him? Bootsy wouldn’t even fight ODLH. De le Hoyas career was more accomplished by 25 then bootsys entire career will be. You’re an idiot if you think bootsy could stand a chance against Oscar. Shows what a fan boy you are. Of a guy who’s 28 and never fought a live body lmao

You can’t compare the politics in boxing back then to now. Boxing is competing with way more distraction media today than back then; therefore, it has shifted to a more business model. We hate it, but it is reality.

As for how boots will beat him? Boots is an ambidextrous switch hitter. Oscar will shoe shine as always, but ran out of gas by the 5th and 6th as always, then he’ll start getting beat up. Boots is an underrated body puncher, too. Oscar’s chance, albeit a slim one, is to catch Boots with his signature left hook ala Oba Carr, if not he’ll be outboxed.

Oscar, Cotto and Ricky Hatton all have the same issue. They are converted orthodox fighters. Meaning, they fight from the orthodox stand without a right hand. Freddy was aware of this and knew they would be easy pickings for a true south paw like Manny. When they throw their signature powerful left, they have nothing coming from the right and always open for that straight left from a south paw.

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Oscar, Cotto and Ricky Hatton all have the same issue. They are converted orthodox fighters.

I don't think Hatton was