Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua admits "time is of the essence" as he targets Tyson Fury in 2025

[MulaKO]

There's only like 2 you can place over them definitely. That's Usyk and Dubois

Yeah I agree to disagree
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[Groin Grabber]

Why do people say meaningless? I guarantee the winner becomes top 4 or5.

In a meaningless division

[Andrew_red]

I don't think it's meaningless as at the moment, we cannot predict for sure who wins. I would say it is more meaningful now than it would’ve been a year ago when Fury was an unbeatable lineal champ, and Joshua was considered a loser. Now, after Usyk beat them both, these two guys have something to prove each other again, fighting for pride, not titles. I believe this one has a huge drama potential. At Ali vs. Frazier III there also were two fighters past their peak and without titles, but it was one of the most brutal and iconic battles in boxing history

[Lance98]

Haha, looks like he is thinking of retiring soon and he is not even that old. No drive to avenge the KO loss to dubois. He is done. Fury didn't look too bad losing at the very least.

[Zelda]

This is a good fight. It's meaning, for those who don't understand, is that it answers the question of who is better between the two. And I'll remind everyone that Gatti vs Ward was meaningless all three times.

Between the two losers?

At one point, it was a fight to see who's the best HW of this era between Wilder, Joshua, and Fury. Today, we already know that person is Usyk. It is no longer even who is best British HW because that is Daniel Dubois. So, it might generate some interest in the UK and pure boxing fans to see if they are shot or who's style is better but the overall interest in the fight is only going to be a fraction of what it could have been a couple of years ago.

Today, I am more interested in seeing where does Parker stand and is Bakole anything near what he claims to be? I am more interested in what the upcoming HW's can do once Usyk retires so I would be more interested in seeing Parker vs Fury and Bakole vs Joshua because there is a chance the one of these fighters could go on to capture the crown if they beat Joshua/Fury. I am more interested in seeing the growth of Moses and Fabio over the years. That is not to say Joshua vs Fury won't be competitive or interesting but just that there is no longer anything special in that fight over some of the other fights.

[Apollo7]

It is no longer even who is best British HW because that is Daniel Dubois..

Not necessarily. If Fury beats Joshua it would be up for debate who is the best Brit.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't think it's meaningless as at the moment, we cannot predict for sure who wins. I would say it is more meaningful now than it would’ve been a year ago when Fury was an unbeatable lineal champ, and Joshua was considered a loser. Now, after Usyk beat them both, these two guys have something to prove each other again, fighting for pride, not titles. I believe this one has a huge drama potential. At Ali vs. Frazier III there also were two fighters past their peak and without titles, but it was one of the most brutal and iconic battles in boxing history

Muhammad Ali was the Lineal and WBC World Heavyweight Champion, when he fought Joe Frazier for the third time 'But? I understand what you are saying, 1000%. Titles do not make fights, the fighters create the event and add to the prestige'.

Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua even though, they have both lost to Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'They are still the two biggest Heavyweight fighters globally in the sport by many miles. There are still millions of boxing fans, sports fans around the world intrigued and invested in their story. And we are entering into the conclusive stages of their careers, EVERYBODY will watch if and when they collide inside the boxing ring'.

People are trying their best to convince themselves, that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, are not the main characters or protagonist of this era 'I have stated this once before? If this Heavyweight boxing era, was made into a motion picture. Then Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are the main protagonist. Without those three fighters the movie, would not be a block buster hit'.

Note: Oleksandr Uysk is a great fighter, and he may be regarded as the best Heavyweight of this era but? He still is not the main character, his story does not define this Heavyweight era. Uysk is not the sole reason why the Heavyweight boxing division, since the retirement of Wladimir Kiltschko has been one of the best divisions in the sport in terms of competitiveness and theatre. The most definitive and influential, fighters of this Heavyweight era have been Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Whether they have won or lost, they have been involved in all the catalytic events and fights of this era.

When Oleksandr Uysk entered into the Heavyweight Division, arguable Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder 'Were already outside of their peak form. All of those three Heavyweight Mountains, had pretty much already? Cleared out the division, collectively they had beaten all of their nearest competition'.

To conclude: If we once again revisit my movie analogy 'Oleksandr Uysk would be turning up in the last quater of this block buster movie. Rocky 1, Rocky 2, Rocky 3, Rocky 4 all of those saga's have already taken place by the time Uysk decided to attack the Heavyweight Division. Tyson Fury has already breached the defenses of The Kiltschko's occupation of the Heavyweight Division, Anthony Joshua has already forced Wladimir Kiltschko into retirement, and conclusively taken the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty. Deontay Wilder has already blasted his way towards being the WBC World Heavyweight Champion. Tyson Fury has already disappeared from the sport, descended into Dantes Infero but found his way back out. Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury have already contested in the greatest Heavyweight rivalry since Evander Holyfield vs Rid**** Bowe, Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier. Anthony Joshua has already been beaten by Andy Ruiz I, to then immediately rematch him and avenges that traumatic loss. Collective Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontey Wilder had already dominated and became the three Heavyweight Mountains of this Heavyweight era. Before eventually Oleksandr Uysk appeared to conquer the Division'.

So, the main point I am trying to make is? Whether people like it or not Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury, in 2025 is a extremely significant Heavyweight fight. It is the most historically significant matchup, that can be made outside of another Undisputed title fight. Those are the pure objective facts. Everyone in the sport, on some level is aware of this. They can attempt to deny those objective facts, but ultimately the nature of the game does not really value people's subjective motives for criticising such a Heavyweight fight. All of you people will watch, the fight has not even been made? And already people are overtly showing extreme intrigue.

And the reality is? Daniel Dubois, Joseph Parker, Zhilei Zhang, Martin Bakole 'All of those fighters are back ground characters in this movie, when you compare them to the three Heavyweight Mountains. Some of them may be playing bigger parts than others such as Joseph Parker, but let's all be honest. They are nowhere near the level of influence, and impact of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Ultimately this has been their Heavyweight Boxing era, and there are still conclusive scenes that need to be played out in their careers' etc.

[Zelda]

Not necessarily. If Fury beats Joshua it would be up for debate who is the best Brit.

Even if Fury beats Joshua, he cannot claim to be the best in the UK. Therefore, Fury needs to fight Dubois to take that claim, not Joshua and that is why I think Joshua-Fury is increasingly meaningless now. Better to have Fury vs Dubois/Parker and Joshua vs Bakole to see where both fighters stand.

[BirdSong]

josh is just collecting cheques from now on hes got too many flaws and baggage to be a dominant force dubois with one punch has obliterated even the newaj guys

[hugh grant]

Even if Fury beats Joshua, he cannot claim to be the best in the UK. Therefore, Fury needs to fight Dubois to take that claim, not Joshua and that is why I think Joshua-Fury is increasingly meaningless now. Better to have Fury vs Dubois/Parker and Joshua vs Bakole to see where both fighters stand.

Yes, I'm sure fury could try fight ddd/Parker winner. But Parker is fury s friend.