Comments Thread For: David Benavidez has theory on why Canelo Alvarez turned down insane offer to face him

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Benavidez was canelo's mandatory. Just like all of the other weak mandatory challengers that Canelo had no problem defending his belt against. What offers did they make? Also, according to Benavidez there was an offer to Canelo that he rejected.


"It was more than 45 million dollars. That was the money that Al Haymon and PBC were offering for the fight against Canelo. I see a lot of people saying you don't make offers to the A-side, but $45 million is a world of money. People want to see that fight, the company was backing me. That's why I thought we could make the fight happen, but they went in another direction.... It's one thing for them to turn down the offer and wait another year to make the fight and make more money, but they didn't even respond. Imagine he has an offer on the table for 45 million dollars and nobody answers. I don't know what else to say," he said in an interview with Fight Hype.

Team Benavidez untimtely retracted that statement. No such offer was made by Haymon to fight David. In fact, Haymon did not even push that issue when Canelo decided to fight for Haymon and his group. Besides Canelo made around 40 million for each of the other fights under Haymon's banner. The reality is that Canelo doesn't give 2 figs what we think. For a grade school dropout he understands boxing is a business and knows the key in business is to manage risk and reward.

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Do you know what was said ? I can read Spanish if you have any links. I'm curious as to what offended him so much that's worth losing the respect of the fans and why he wouldn't want to beat the mans son up to teach him a lesson if it's like that.

#WhatWouldElChapoDo? .

I don't know what, if anything, offended Alvarez, but in my opinion, some of the remarks were beyond the pale. I don't think Canelo has avoided because of being offended. As he said Benavidez brings nothing to the table except extra weight. If Canelo can get around 40 million for fighting other guys closer to his size, why would he fight a natural cruiserweight for 45 million? ls the extra 5 million worth the extra risk? It appears that Canelo doesn't think so. I am not saying I condone it, but I do get it, it makes sense to me.

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Hey, I am not making the "disrespect" argument. I was responding to another poster. If it is a question of disrespect, It doesn't apply in the case of the Plant fight. Moreover, the "disrespect" shown by Benavidez's father, particularly in Spanish-speaking sites reached ugly levels -- way beyond anything anyone else said. But I think Benavidez not getting the fight has little to do with a lack of respect though that might play a part. I just find it interesting that Canelo triggers people so much.

It has 0 to do with disrespect and everything to do with level of threat that Benavidez poses. Canelo clearly isn’t interested in taking any significant risk.
as far as Canelo being triggering , probably because real boxing fans who want to see real fights are watching spit in the face of the sport with his ducking.

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“To be honest with you, I really don't know,” Benavidez told BoxingScene when asked why he thinks Benavidez is yet to fight him.
He’s literally is being asked the question because it’s a fight that real fans wanted to see, so he answers. Just because Canelo fans hate to be reminded about his cowardly ways doesn’t mean he shouldn’t answer questions when asked and doesn’t mean he isn’t focused on his opponent.
As far as losing the belt for missing weight, Canelo has missed weight twice so it’s nothing to sit high and mighty about. The truth is, belt or not, Canelo would’ve avoided him. He only wanted to be undisputed after Benavidez got stripped and actually lobbied the wbc for the title just 2 days after he got stripped. Never before.

Ok but when did canelo got stripped for missing weight? Let alone TWICE? Please refresh my memory cause I cant recall that man.

The truth is Benavidez was in a great position as the WBC SMW champion, but he just blew it 2x, not to mention David never even talked about unifications or undisputed runs,something that Canelo did accomplished, thats the whole root of the problem if we zoom out this whole situation , maybe you're entitled to disagree thats cool everybody has an opinion or take about it but I do believe they would've fought simply cause Canelo wasn't going to stay at 160 forever, his body just couldn't do that weight anymore, that fight would've been imminent just as Plant, BJS and Callum got their shot. Benavidez aint that special man.

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Ok but when did canelo got stripped for missing weight? Let alone TWICE? Please refresh my memory cause I cant recall that man.

The truth is Benavidez was in a great position as the WBC SMW champion, but he just blew it 2x, not to mention David never even talked about unifications or undisputed runs,something that Canelo did accomplished, thats the whole root of the problem if we zoom out this whole situation , maybe you're entitled to disagree thats cool everybody has an opinion or take about it but I do believe they would've fought simply cause Canelo wasn't going to stay at 160 forever, his body just couldn't do that weight anymore, that fight would've been imminent just as Plant, BJS and Callum got their shot. Benavidez aint that special man.

AB, stop with that BS. The truth is canelo refused to fight benavidez, declined to fight Morrell jr, left his rematch clause expired with bivol, benavidez wasn't in any position to fight canelo because the yellow cinnamon never had any intention to fight him, period. When he arrived at the division, he said, and I quote, "I won't fight any more Mexicans" referring of course to benavidez, he only went ahead for the unification after the american (let's not forget that the guy is not even Mexican) lost his belt. So what, he lost the belt? He was mandatory for two years and Morrell jr for three, and he never looked their way and fought a real Mexican after all, of course, another blown-up media star. He is a fraud.

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I don't know what, if anything, offended Alvarez, but in my opinion, some of the remarks were beyond the pale. I don't think Canelo has avoided because of being offended. As he said Benavidez brings nothing to the table except extra weight. If Canelo can get around 40 million for fighting other guys closer to his size, why would he fight a natural cruiserweight for 45 million? ls the extra 5 million worth the extra risk? It appears that Canelo doesn't think so. I am not saying I condone it, but I do get it, it makes sense to me.

You should be ashamed calling yourself a boxing fan.

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You should be a shame calling yourself a boxing fan.

Stopped, it doesn't matter that he lost the belt, if he has kept the belt yellow -ginger would have never faced him. You look like a hurt husband, excusing your woman why she had sex with another man.

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Ok but when did canelo got stripped for missing weight? Let alone TWICE? Please refresh my memory cause I cant recall that man.

The truth is Benavidez was in a great position as the WBC SMW champion, but he just blew it 2x, not to mention David never even talked about unifications or undisputed runs,something that Canelo did accomplished, thats the whole root of the problem if we zoom out this whole situation , maybe you're entitled to disagree thats cool everybody has an opinion or take about it but I do believe they would've fought simply cause Canelo wasn't going to stay at 160 forever, his body just couldn't do that weight anymore, that fight would've been imminent just as Plant, BJS and Callum got their shot. Benavidez aint that special man.

He wasn’t stripped because he wasn’t champ. He missed weight for his first title shot, a complete scam matchup vs Matthew Hatton. They still let him fight for the title despite missing the contracted catch weight he set. Then he couldn’t make weight for Angelo and had the birth of Caneloweight 155 was born.

Benavidez did try to unify and wanted to face plant and smith but he was avoided. Canelo was able to do it because nobody avoids him. He does the avoiding. Canelo never had any intent to fight Benavidez. Benavidez for the last couple of years has put himself to be the most credible opponent Canelo has faced since a 36 yr old ggg 7 years ago and opportunity to finally sell 1 mil ppvs for the first time since then and he’s still ducking him. Canelo’s aspirations to become undisputed happened because Benavidez got stripped. If he hadn’t , he would’ve avoided becoming undisputed just like he did at 160 when he was interested in facing Andrade or Charlo.

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AB, stop with that BS. The truth is canelo refused to fight benavidez, declined to fight Morrell jr, left his rematch clause expired with bivol, benavidez wasn't in any position to fight canelo because the yellow cinnamon never had any intention to fight him, period. When he arrived at the division, he said, and I quote, "I won't fight any more Mexicans" referring of course to benavidez, he only went ahead for the unification after the american (let's not forget that the guy is not even Mexican) lost his belt. So what, he lost the belt? He was mandatory for two years and Morrell jr for three, and he never looked their way and fought a real Mexican after all, of course, another blown-up media star. He is a fraud.

Nah you are the one that got it all twisted buddy, Canelo never referred Benavidez as mexican simply cause he aint no mexican lol, Benny is an AMERICAN FIGHTER of Ecuadorian/Mexican roots, Canelo responded that in reference of Zurdo Ramirez not Benavidez lol. And whatsup with that 'what that he lost the belt'? Lol seriously bro? You're excusing Benavidez multiple undiscipline episodes now? All this while reffering Canelo as a 'Fraud'? Lol thats hysterical Garfios! Sht like this keeps convincing me the whole world is coming to an end real soon. Folks look at evident bad things as 'good' and vice-versa. Sht is crazy.

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It has 0 to do with disrespect and everything to do with level of threat that Benavidez poses. Canelo clearly isn’t interested in taking any significant risk.
as far as Canelo being triggering , probably because real boxing fans who want to see real fights are watching spit in the face of the sport with his ducking.

I think we agree. It has all to do with risk vs reward. What we might want has little to do with this matter. Consumers have little leverage here except by tuning out. Folks who are upset by this should not watch Canelo fights and heavily support Benavidez, but the reality is that Benavidez has few cash-paying fans to bring to the table and two Canelo fights are mega events irrespective of who he fights.