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  • Did the Ai judge prove it can outperform human judges with the 118-112 Usyk scorecard?

    Although the human judges gave a fair enough score of 116-112 across the board, the Ai judge seemed to go one step further and completely omit Fury's punches which didn't actually hit a scoring target, These were the vast majority of Fury's shots. He was hitting mainly gloves, forearms, elbows, in other words Usyk's guard, but Fury rarely landed clean shots. Seems the Ai took this into consideration, which human judges don't consistently do. So was the Ai score of 118-112 the most accurate, and could this be the beginning of the end for human judges?

  • #2
    Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
    Although the human judges gave a fair enough score of 116-112 across the board, the Ai judge seemed to go one step further and completely omit Fury's punches which didn't actually hit a scoring target, These were the vast majority of Fury's shots. He was hitting mainly gloves, forearms, elbows, in other words Usyk's guard, but Fury rarely landed clean shots. Seems the Ai took this into consideration, which human judges don't consistently do. So was the Ai score of 118-112 the most accurate, and could this be the beginning of the end for human judges?
    I hope not for multiple reasons
    The fact that the AI can be fixed to manipulation is one and two would be who would you blame for it ???
    At least we know ahead of time with some of the humans what to expect
    The AI imo would be to vague

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    • #3
      How does one fight prove anything?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SouthpawRight
        AI is continuously learning and gets smarter over time

        I’m all for replacing human judges with AI

        human judges are flawed and come with personal preferences for their favored styles tactics and techniques

        the only metric that matters is clean punching. The cleaner puncher for that round is the effective aggressor, smarter ring general, and better defender

        AI will set a solid standard for scoring boxing

        This turns boxing into a fairer sport. Every fighter will know ahead of time I must be the cleaner puncher to win the round
        Y D K S A B

        Soviet Style

        LmFao

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          AI is continuously learning and gets smarter over time

          I’m all for replacing human judges with AI

          human judges are flawed and come with personal preferences for their favored styles tactics and techniques

          the only metric that matters is clean punching. The cleaner puncher for that round is the effective aggressor, smarter ring general, and better defender

          AI will set a solid standard for scoring boxing

          This turns boxing into a fairer sport. Every fighter will know ahead of time I must be the cleaner puncher to win the round
          As long as we can be sure that the program isn’t interfered with, AI should prove to be much better than human judges. Might even save the sport, as too many casuals are turned off by the constant incessant robberies.
          SouthpaRight SouthpawRight likes this.

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          • #6
            I dont think its quite ready to replace judges but I do believe the whole system needs reworked. I think judges should have to lock in their score at the conclusion of every ROUND.

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            • #7
              Depends on what you train the AI algorithm on - it needs a reference standard to be able to learn.

              Just imagine how an algorithm chiefly trained on Adalaide Byrd's judging would perform.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                AI is continuously learning and gets smarter over time

                I’m all for replacing human judges with AI

                human judges are flawed and come with personal preferences for their favored styles tactics and techniques

                the only metric that matters is clean punching. The cleaner puncher for that round is the effective aggressor, smarter ring general, and better defender

                AI will set a solid standard for scoring boxing

                This turns boxing into a fairer sport. Every fighter will know ahead of time I must be the cleaner puncher to win the round
                I don't disagree with human judges having flaws and personal preferance and all for more technology intervention, but the definition of the term "clean punching" is also extremely hard to coin without having some kind of human preference which makes it hard. Would damage amount matter in this case? What about balance of aggression throughout the whole round?

                Suppose boxer A started out the round by lashing out a flurry of jabs where two of them strikes "cleanly" on the opponent between boxer B's guard, then comes in for a combination and gets another "clean punch" to the body though it doesn't really give any notable lasting damage. B returns fire as well, but A immediately backs up and the punches all hit the arm he is guarding with. On the last minute, A comes in again trying to land more punches, but gets hit by B's huge counter punch to the body. Boxer A manages to not get knocked down from it but is obviously hurt, and spends the last minute clamped in a shell while running for his life backpedaling and clinching and doing everything to not get another clean punch, and barely survived until the bell.

                Overall, boxer A had more "clean punches" with 3 total and a higher punch hit % as he threw far less total, but did he really "win" the round?

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                • #9
                  Lmfao

                  The flip flopper at it again
                  Soon it’ll be another story
                  Y D K S A B

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dolor View Post
                    Depends on what you train the AI algorithm on - it needs a reference standard to be able to learn.

                    Just imagine how an algorithm chiefly trained on Adalaide Byrd's judging would perform.
                    AI cannot get it right from video data its just impossible, it must have sensors in the gloves thats the only way until then its more of a gimmick, its not making an image or a video here, it cannot know the power of a punch without sensors , then it would be full proof and very accurate.
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