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  • rrayvez
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    #61
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    Yeah, so far my opinion is shared by more people than your oddball take that Vergil Ortiz is ducking Zayas.
    you really are dumb as shyt. I said that the logic of Ortiz ducking Zayas is similar logic to you saying boots is ducking Ortiz. And no matter who you get to agree with you about who’s a tougher match up, it’s an opinion regardless. But go ahead and cling to your false narrative if it makes you feel better about the fact that you’re a wannabe mexican and an inbred. Nobody is scared of Ortiz when he can’t make weight without nearly dying and got bopped around the ring in his last fight. End of the day, there’s 1 true duck in boxing today and it’s your boo Canelo and that was my original point despite your deflection to bring others to his cowardly level.

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      #62
      Originally posted by rrayvez
      you really are dumb as shyt. I said that the logic of Ortiz ducking Zayas is similar logic to you saying boots is ducking Ortiz. And no matter who you get to agree with you about who’s a tougher match up, it’s an opinion regardless. But go ahead and cling to your false narrative if it makes you feel better about the fact that you’re a wannabe mexican and an inbred. Nobody is scared of Ortiz when he can’t make weight without nearly dying and got bopped around the ring in his last fight. End of the day, there’s 1 true duck in boxing today and it’s your boo Canelo and that was my original point despite your deflection to bring others to his cowardly level.
      Naw, it’s not similar logic. Instead of fighting Zayas we have Vergil Ortiz fighting Israil Madrimov who is a tougher opponent than Zayas. Not just in my opinion but in the opinion of several other boxing fans.

      Boots Ennis, on the other hand, clearly ducked Ortiz. And it looks like he ducked Teofimo Lopez as well.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Naw, it’s not similar logic. Instead of fighting Zayas we have Vergil Ortiz fighting Israil Madrimov who is a tougher opponent than Zayas. Not just in my opinion but in the opinion of several other boxing fans.

        Boots Ennis, on the other hand, clearly ducked Ortiz. And it looks like he ducked Teofimo Lopez as well.
        No matter what you say, it’s your opinion. And you are a nobody in boxing so it’s even less relevant.

        Now to prove your hypocrisy, did Canelo duck benavidez? Yes or no?
        Did Canelo duck the rematch with Bivol? Yes or no?
        If beterbiev sends Canelo an offer to fight and Canelo says he wants to fight at 168 instead and isn’t moving up, would that be a duck? Yes or no?

        answer the questions and try not to be a puss like your hero.
        Last edited by rrayvez; 12-30-2024, 10:05 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by rrayvez
          No matter what you say, it’s your opinion. And you are a nobody in boxing so it’s even less relevant.

          Now to prove your hypocrisy, did Canelo duck benavidez? Yes or no?
          Did Canelo duck the rematch with Bivol? Yes or no?
          If beterbiev sends Canelo an offer to fight and Canelo says he wants to fight at 168 instead and isn’t moving up, would that be a duck? Yes or no?

          answer the questions and try not to be a puss like your hero.
          Of course Canelo ducked Benavidez. But Canelo already has scalps on his resume and can afford to pick and choose

          Boots Ennis has no scalps, is an email champion, and claims he can’t get big names to fight him. But then turns around and ducks when Vergil Ortiz signed the contract.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Of course Canelo ducked Benavidez. But Canelo already has scalps on his resume and can afford to pick and choose

            Boots Ennis has no scalps, is an email champion, and claims he can’t get big names to fight him. But then turns around and ducks when Vergil Ortiz signed the contract.
            Ahh of course you have a but to it. Fook his scalps. His primary scalps were 35-40 yr old men and since he was 32 he’s been running from real challenges. Stop making excuses to let him off the hook. And what about the other 2 scenarios I mentioned? Don’t ignore those. End of the day with boots, him and Ortiz are no longer in the same weight class, that’s Ortiz fault. Boots has a belt and Ortiz never has. And Ortiz got his ass knocked around the ring his last fight. You’re just a Mexican fighter apologist.

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              #66
              Originally posted by rrayvez
              Ahh of course you have a but to it. Fook his scalps. His primary scalps were 35-40 yr old men and since he was 32 he’s been running from real challenges. Stop making excuses to let him off the hook. And what about the other 2 scenarios I mentioned? Don’t ignore those. End of the day with boots, him and Ortiz are no longer in the same weight class, that’s Ortiz fault. Boots has a belt and Ortiz never has. And Ortiz got his ass knocked around the ring his last fight. You’re just a Mexican fighter apologist.
              The fact of the matter is that after his last fight Boots himself mentioned moving up to 154 and fighting Ortiz. Ortiz called his bluff and signed the contract.

              You just can’t bring yourself to call Ennis a duck like you do Canelo. You obviously have double standards for some reason.


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                #67
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                The fact of the matter is that after his last fight Boots himself mentioned moving up to 154 and fighting Ortiz. Ortiz called his bluff and signed the contract.

                You just can’t bring yourself to call Ennis a duck like you do Canelo. You obviously have double standards for some reason.

                And boots also said that the original contract said for the fight to be at 147 and then they changed it. You don’t want to take his word on that? He also said after his last fight that he made weight easily and he’ll see about moving to 154. By your same logic, Boots is champ at 147 and agreed to the fight at that weight, why can’t Ortiz move back down? Why isn’t he the duck for not fighting at 147? Why should the champ be compelled to chase someone who isn’t in his weight class, isn’t champ and has never been champ? That’s quite different from Canelo refusing to fight his -#1 contender for years and years. Listen I get it, you think you have some imaginary connection to Mexicans and Mexican Americans so you ride for them to make you feel better about your life. Doesn’t change the truth that Canelo is known as boxings biggest duck and Ortiz hasn’t accomplished shyt in boxing to demand that a champ move up to face him.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The D3vil

                  Boots has been saying he wanted to completely unify 147.

                  This was 6 months ago.

                  https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/...n-01j62rj1brnc
                  Here let’s put it this way ; your favourite boxer is going to hurt himself by challenging himself to make a weight he has said himself he can’t make
                  Now , people expected to believe that bullchit lie from Slow fughi Eddie that thé fight was first revealed to be at 147
                  So you’d rather see Ortiz die than fight another day ???
                  Thats basically what your saying
                  I actually like your comments and posts but your way off in left field for this one
                  By the way , it’s a righty batting
                  Just sayin’

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                  • MulaKO
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Did Boots Ennis not say he was interested in moving up to 154 and fighting Vergil Ortiz? Does Vergil Ortiz not offer a bigger payday than anyone at 147 currently?
                    Not only that but he said it himself , it’s time to move up after the Karen debacle
                    Fugh that , we are talking about a boxer not being able to make the weight anymore
                    If you’ve never been involved , yes you can’t grasp it but it is very simple mathematics

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by rrayvez
                      And boots also said that the original contract said for the fight to be at 147 and then they changed it. You don’t want to take his word on that? He also said after his last fight that he made weight easily and he’ll see about moving to 154. By your same logic, Boots is champ at 147 and agreed to the fight at that weight, why can’t Ortiz move back down? Why isn’t he the duck for not fighting at 147? Why should the champ be compelled to chase someone who isn’t in his weight class, isn’t champ and has never been champ? That’s quite different from Canelo refusing to fight his -#1 contender for years and years. Listen I get it, you think you have some imaginary connection to Mexicans and Mexican Americans so you ride for them to make you feel better about your life. Doesn’t change the truth that Canelo is known as boxings biggest duck and Ortiz hasn’t accomplished shyt in boxing to demand that a champ move up to face him.
                      Show me where Boots said thé contract was at 154
                      That my friend was S’ow fughin Eddie doing what a promoter is supposed to do
                      in this case is lie like a biatching to protect your fighter although it makes you look ******

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