Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: The greatness of Usyk, Sugar Ray Leonard-Marvin Hagler, AI scoring and Evander Holyfield

[Verus]

There is no night in the history of Canelo’s life that would put him anywhere close to beating a prime Roy Jones. He doesn’t beat any of the other 3 either. Sounds good on paper when you reference him being the only undisputed champion but conveniently ignore the lesser competition that was in the division for him to do so, and the fact that the wbc conveniently threw in their title for free as part of his fight with Smith. Yeah it’s all hypothetical, but common sense should prevail and the eye test is clear to know that he was beneath all of them as a boxer.

"There is no night in the history of anyone's life that would put them anywhere close to beating a prime Roy Jones"

[ShoulderRoll]

That's a ridiculous comparison.

I'm critical of Canelo for the same reason I'm critical of Mayweather & Tank, because as the cash cow fighters of the sport, they can fight whoever they want, when they want, so if fights don't happen 9/10 times it's their fault.

Boots just became champion in his division & none of the guys who were/are names in his division wanted to fight him including Crawford (post-Spence), Spence (at any time), Thurman, or Ortiz (when he was at 147).

So, Boots says, "cool, I'll just unify at 147".

Now, y'all got him ducking people who aren't even in the same division as him.

Boots claims no one wants to fight him, yet Turki is offering good money to fight Vergil Ortiz and Ortiz even signed the contract.

The fight is not happening and it’s Boots’ fault.

Canelo has one of the best resumes in the sport at this point in his career so he can afford some cherrypicking here or there. Boots has fought no one and needs to get going when it comes to building a legacy and getting large fight purses. He is not in a position to be turning down big fights.

[MulaKO]

That's a ridiculous comparison.

I'm critical of Canelo for the same reason I'm critical of Mayweather & Tank, because as the cash cow fighters of the sport, they can fight whoever they want, when they want, so if fights don't happen 9/10 times it's their fault.

Boots just became champion in his division & none of the guys who were/are names in his division wanted to fight him including Crawford (post-Spence), Spence (at any time), Thurman, or Ortiz (when he was at 147).

So, Boots says, "cool, I'll just unify at 147".

Now, y'all got him ducking people who aren't even in the same division as him.

Brother he called out Ortiz and when Ortiz called
out his bluff he decided that he was gonna unify 147
plus let’s look back at him refusing fights with others
You kidding me ?????

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Errol Spence Jr vs Siphiwe lusizi

[R.I.P Chico]

This man is a racist.

[eco1]

F u c k ai

[Doubledagger]

The black fans who criticize Canelo for “ducking,” but then run to defend Boots for ducking Vergil Ortiz, are hypocrites. Plain and simple. Just apply the same standards to everyone equally.

Anytime someone brings up Evander Holyfield in the Mailbag they should include that he needs an asterisk next to his record. Because of the PEDs. Just like Bread likes to say about Canelo and his positive test.

Agreed. All the duckers and ped users should be criticised irrespective of race and ethnicity.

Canelo however is even worse because he is both a duck and a ped user.

[Doubledagger]

Sorry, El Mero, I generally agree with you, but I don't see Boots not fighting Ortiz this minute as a duck. He said in the ring after his last fight that he prefers to unify at 147 before jumping up to 154. I think those young men with get it on before long. I'd like to see Boots vs Stanionis over anybody else at 147. That's his biggest challenge there.

He said he was drained and is thinking about moving up at the Boos vs Karen post fight interview.

Then when Ortiz called his bluff, he ran back to hiding behind the 147 barren division.

[Doubledagger]

No it’s Canelo lovers who always want to deflect and call other people duckers when he is the most blatant ducker in the sport right now. There are certainly levels to ducking and Canelo’s is the worst. Not sure how you think it’s the same when one is a champ at 147 and wants to unify and the other is a contender at 154. By your logic , Did Ortiz duck Zayas? Offer was made, accepted and the Ortiz disappeared.

Ortiz is fighting a better opponent than Zayas so how can he be ducking Zayas?

Who is Boots fighting?

[Doubledagger]

1. Madrimov being a tougher fight is your opinion and not based on fact. Zayas is younger, faster, bigger, taller and has a longer reach than madrimov.
2. You don’t know who boots is fighting next so again, you’re going on assumptions. Overall, Do you know many boxers who pass on unifications to leave a weight class to fight a 0 time champion?
3. There are levels to ducks and NONE are greater than your idol Canelo. He has 0 logic to avoiding Benavidez other than not wanting to take an ass whooping. I’d prefer Boots face Ortiz as a boxing fan but understand that unifying has and always will be a major priority for boxers. Not to mention, it isn’t boots fault that Ortiz can’t make 147 anymore because he damn near died trying to be a weight bully.

Sis this is a boxing discussion forum.

It means fans discuss boxing amongst themselves.

I urge you Madam, stick to sucking off Boots and taking care of his manly needs and leave the boxing discussions to us fans.