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  • #11
    Fan of Bivol & Beterbiev. Had it 5-5 going into the 11th and scored the last two rounds for Beterbiev. But when i watched it back i had it clearly for Beterbiev. Both are great fighters.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
      Floyd was a master of using defensive rolls for head movement

      Bivol head movement consists of slips dips pulls and fades. But Bivol perma high guard in fight 1 made his upper body too rigid to use these techniques

      For a guy who isn’t slique Bivol’s defense is as good as it gets. I’d rate it 8/10 or 8.5/10. Artur ko streak was broken

      Bivol hook buzzed Artur a couple of times. His legs told on him. Bivol knows his hook is harmful to Artur. That hook hurts Artur in the rematch

      Bivol will return to form using his long guard and Soviet Step. He’s better offensively with the Soviet Step and long guard
      Artur was gifted the decision because judges subconsciously favor finishing strong and coming forward

      Bivol lateral movement gameplan had him fighting too cautiously

      Boxing is SUPPOSED to only be scored round by round. Bivol didn’t appreciate OPTICS which bit him in the azz in the form of a gift for his beaten opponent

      more like David-David rematch

      After hurting Artur, Bivol’s 2nd fight in 2025 will be a lighter match

      Let see if Turki can get them to fight 3 times per year
      Whilst I don’t necessarily rule out a Morrell rematch who’s a potential banana skin, I think that Beterbiev is one of those guys who’s destined never to lose (like Usyk) so he’ll probably beat Bivol again (even though I scored the first fight a DRAW).

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      • #13
        Like Benavidez. But he is honestly hoping for Bivol to win. Biev's style is all wrong for Benavidez. Only a great mover with big power has a shot at beating Biev.

        Bivol clearly lost the first fight. He survived, very hard to win a fight running.

        Biev is showing signs of aging. That is really the deciding factor in all of it. If Biev comes in sharp and healthy, he isn't getting beat by either guy.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
          Floyd was a master of using defensive rolls for head movement

          Bivol head movement consists of slips dips pulls and fades. But Bivol perma high guard in fight 1 made his upper body too rigid to use these techniques

          For a guy who isn’t slique Bivol’s defense is as good as it gets. I’d rate it 8/10 or 8.5/10. Artur ko streak was broken

          Bivol hook buzzed Artur a couple of times. His legs told on him. Bivol knows his hook is harmful to Artur. That hook hurts Artur in the rematch

          Bivol will return to form using his long guard and Soviet Step. He’s better offensively with the Soviet Step and long guard
          Artur was gifted the decision because judges subconsciously favor finishing strong and coming forward

          Bivol lateral movement gameplan had him fighting too cautiously

          Boxing is SUPPOSED to only be scored round by round. Bivol didn’t appreciate OPTICS which bit him in the azz in the form of a gift for his beaten opponent

          more like David-David rematch

          After hurting Artur, Bivol’s 2nd fight in 2025 will be a lighter match

          Let see if Turki can get them to fight 3 times per year
          Nice breakdown. I still have a hard time seeing where Bivol can improve, UNLESS he comes in far better shape.
          I thought Artur drove the fight and appeared in control 80% of the time.
          I can’t hardly wait to see the second one. Should be a great one. I think a close fight will go to Bivol this time. They want a trilogy out of these men.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat View Post
            Beter won on affective aggression the first time around so if Bivol can be more nimble and defensive while keeping up his punch output then he'll walk away with the W.

            Benavidez beats both though IMO. He's in his prime right now and in his most comfortable weight class. Now way in hell he's losing to anyone in their late 30's like Bivol and Beter.
            Bivol is only 34

            ​Bivol having limited inside fighting is the best thing Benavidez has going for him should they fight

            Bivol is quite passive when infighting. Shells up in a high guard waiting for a moment to counter left hook. No shots down the centerline. Bivol throws only hooks inside

            Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

            Whilst I don’t necessarily rule out a Morrell rematch who’s a potential banana skin, I think that Beterbiev is one of those guys who’s destined never to lose (like Usyk) so he’ll probably beat Bivol again (even though I scored the first fight a DRAW).
            too many vulnerabilities and has been hurt hard multiple timez

            far from invincible or godlike skill

            Artur is a great fighter but no Mayweather.

            Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
            Like Benavidez. But he is honestly hoping for Bivol to win. Biev's style is all wrong for Benavidez. Only a great mover with big power has a shot at beating Biev.

            Bivol clearly lost the first fight. He survived, very hard to win a fight running.

            Biev is showing signs of aging. That is really the deciding factor in all of it. If Biev comes in sharp and healthy, he isn't getting beat by either guy.
            Bena is better chin than Artur

            Artur’s aura has diminished after his ko streak was broken by a Bivol who was boxing in spurts

            More and more guys will see the final bell if Artur continues his career
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

            Nice breakdown. I still have a hard time seeing where Bivol can improve, UNLESS he comes in far better shape.
            I thought Artur drove the fight and appeared in control 80% of the time.
            I can’t hardly wait to see the second one. Should be a great one. I think a close fight will go to Bivol this time. They want a trilogy out of these men.
            Turns out all of that lateral movement from Bivol burnt more stamina than just sticking to his Soviet Step

            Good engine in all of Bivol prior fights where he Soviet Stepped

            Soviet Step Bivol is better offensively than Lateral Bivol. Being hit is tiring for the opponent!
            Last edited by SouthpawRight; 12-27-2024, 01:41 PM.
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            • #16
              I had Bivol winning the first fight till Beterbiev rallied to take the last 3 rounds. So did the judges.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                Bivol is only 34

                ​Bivol having limited inside fighting is the best thing Benavidez has going for him should they fight

                Bivol is quite passive when infighting. Shells up in a high guard waiting for a moment to counter left hook. No shots down the centerline. Bivol throws only hooks inside

                too many vulnerabilities and has been hurt hard multiple timez

                far from invincible or godlike skill

                Artur is a great fighter but no Mayweather.

                Bena is better chin than Artur

                Artur’s aura has diminished after his ko streak was broken by a Bivol who was boxing in spurts

                More and more guys will see the final bell if Artur continues his career
                Turns out all of that lateral movement from Bivol burnt more stamina than just sticking to his Soviet Step

                Good engine in all of Bivol prior fights where he Soviet Stepped

                Soviet Step Bivol is better offensively than Lateral Bivol. Being hit is tiring for the opponent!
                That “step” leaves him INLINE to a shot. That’s why he avoided it but I agree. It usually works just not so good for Artur. He wants you in front of him.

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                • #18
                  This guy is a bad dreamer...An illusionist...
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    I had Bivol winning the first fight till Beterbiev rallied to take the last 3 rounds. So did the judges.
                    so you either had Bivol up 6-3 or 5-4 going into those last 3 rounds

                    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

                    That “step” leaves him INLINE to a shot. That’s why he avoided it but I agree. It usually works just not so good for Artur. He wants you in front of him.
                    has to use feints along with juggling between the Soviet Step and Lateral so Artur cannot get the timing down for counters

                    Lateral Bivol stops Artur from fully cutting the ring off, but Steppe Bivol is better at fighting on the backfoot

                    without the Steppe Bivol output while backwards was low. He’d burst with combos in spurts or do the occasional check hook

                    I’m expecting fight 2 to be explosive and violent compared to 1

                    Artur starts faster coming forward aggressively throwing caution to the wind

                    if Artur can regularly get to Bivol’s body early, Artur can make openings for clean overhands to stop Bivol

                    Bivol comes into the rematch confident knowing three things. His left hook hurt Artur in fight 1, his chin can take a hard counter right from Artur, and that he’s physically stronger than Artur

                    Bivol has been sitting down on his lower hook on the pads in this training camp

                    He almost always hooks off of his right hand

                    Bivol could use left hook to Artur’s body more often this time around

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ODLH Chicano Goat View Post
                      Beter won on affective aggression the first time around so if Bivol can be more nimble and defensive while keeping up his punch output then he'll walk away with the W.

                      Benavidez beats both though IMO. He's in his prime right now and in his most comfortable weight class. Now way in hell he's losing to anyone in their late 30's like Bivol and Beter.
                      he won’t even beat morrel dopey Bivol and beter work him too lol

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