The top 10 heavyweights since Wlad Klitschko

[dannnnn]

And I would put Fury over Joshua - AJ has looked vulnerable way too many times to be #2.

I know what you're saying but it stands to reason that if you fight tougher competition you will end up showing more vulnerability. I feel like we as boxing fans should be lauding the guys who are willing to take on all comers - even if that means looking beatable and suffering a few more losses - because otherwise we are basically advocating for careful and selective match-making. If Joshua had to run the gauntlet of Fury's resume, he - like Fury - would only have two losses and would have shown a lot less vulnerability than he has in own career.

And when you actually look at it, Joshua's been down nine times in his career but eight of those occurred in two fights (Ruiz and Dubois). Fury has been down eight times and while four of those came against Wilder, the other four came against Neven Pajkic, Steve Cunningham, Ngannou and Usyk. Two ex-cruiserweights, a light punching journeyman and an MMA fighter. Fury may have better powers of recovery than Joshua but he's also easier to put down. He too has shown a lot of vulnerability throughout his career and I'd argue he'd have shown a whole lot more had he been forced to fight through Joshua's resume rather than his own.

[ooToo7ahph]

Wilder's power is crazy but zero wins over top 10? That stat hit harder than a spike in Geometry Dash Meltdown.

[NihonJim]

The doctor giving Wilder extra time wasn't in Wilder's control, though. Dillian Whyte "won" a fight off a very intentional foul. That's the biggest robbery on this list by far.

That's just a narrative being made now because Parker is popular and Whyte is no longer relevant

Parker came off second best in a head clash and then did his usual Parker thing of doing nothing for like 10 rounds, only showing ambition when Whyte was totally gassed and completely lost his shape.

At the time everyone viewed it for what it was, yet another fight in which Parker didn't try hard enough.

[Dodger07]

1. Usyk: 5-0 against ring opponents (1ko) 20% ko ratio with 5 wins over guys on this list

2. Joshua 8-4 against ring ranked opponents (6ko) 50% ko ratio with 3 wins over guys on this list

3. Fury:5-2-1 against ring ranked opponents (1ko) 17% ko ratio with 3 wins over guys on this list

4. Parker-3-3 against ring ranked opponents (0kos) 0% ko ratio with 3 wins over guys on this list

5. Dubois: 2-2 against ring ranked opponents (2kos) 50% ko ratio with 2 wins over guys on this list

6. Zhang: 3-2 against ring ranked opponents (3kos) 60% ko ratio with 3 wins over guys on this list

7. Joyce: 2-2 against ring ranked opponents (2kos) 50% ko ratio with 2 wins over guys on this list

8. Ruiz jr: 2-2 against ring ranked opponents (1ko) 35% ko ratio with 1 win over a guy on this list

9. Whyte: 3-3 against ring ranked opponents (1ko) 17% ko ratio with 1 win over someone on this list

10. Wilder: 3-4-1 against ring ranked opponents (2kos) 25% ko ratio with 0 wins over guys on this list

Correct names on the list. But I’d have Fury over AJ and Wilder over Whyte.

[NihonJim]

I know what you're saying but it stands to reason that if you fight tougher competition you will end up showing more vulnerability. I feel like we as boxing fans should be lauding the guys who are willing to take on all comers - even if that means looking beatable and suffering a few more losses - because otherwise we are basically advocating for careful and selective match-making. If Joshua had to run the gauntlet of Fury's resume, he - like Fury - would only have two losses and would have shown a lot less vulnerability than he has in own career.

And when you actually look at it, Joshua's been down nine times in his career but eight of those occurred in two fights (Ruiz and Dubois). Fury has been down eight times and while four of those came against Wilder, the other four came against Neven Pajkic, Steve Cunningham, Ngannou and Usyk. Two ex-cruiserweights, a light punching journeyman and an MMA fighter. Fury may have better powers of recovery than Joshua but he's also easier to put down. He too has shown a lot of vulnerability throughout his career and I'd argue he'd have shown a whole lot more had he been forced to fight through Joshua's resume rather than his own.

Fury and Joshua are hard to compare because which Fury are you talking about?

AJ is AJ, he's the same fighter every fight.

Fury is wildly inconsistent and his vulnerable performances almost always come against opponents he could easily beat, because he gets lazy.

If you compare Fury of the Wlad fight, Wilder 2 or even Usyk 1 to any version of AJ he's levels above.

If you compare Fury from Pajkic or Ngannou then AJ is levels above him.

[famicommander]

That's just a narrative being made now because Parker is popular and Whyte is no longer relevant

Parker came off second best in a head clash and then did his usual Parker thing of doing nothing for like 10 rounds, only showing ambition when Whyte was totally gassed and completely lost his shape.

At the time everyone viewed it for what it was, yet another fight in which Parker didn't try hard enough.

The point Whyte was awarded for the bogus knockdown literally changed the outcome of the fight, first of all. If Parker gets a 10-9 round in round 2 instead of an 8-10 round the scorecards come back a split draw.

And that's not even considering that Parker should have received time to recover instead of having to immediately get up and fight on through the foul.

And no, this is not a narrative that was invented later. Everyone who was watching the fight live saw a clear headbutt except the referee, and it was immediately a topic of discussion after the fight.

[NihonJim]

The point Whyte was awarded for the bogus knockdown literally changed the outcome of the fight, first of all. If Parker gets a 10-9 round in round 2 instead of an 8-10 round the scorecards come back a split draw.

And that's not even considering that Parker should have received time to recover instead of having to immediately get up and fight on through the foul.

And no, this is not a narrative that was invented later. Everyone who was watching the fight live saw a clear headbutt except the referee, and it was immediately a topic of discussion after the fight.

It was only a topic for crying Parker fans

[Jamespala]

Usyk became the first recognised undisputed world heavyweight champion since Lewis (41-2, 32 KOs).

[famicommander]

It was only a topic for crying Parker fans

No, it was a topic for people who watched the fight and understand the rules of boxing.

No different than Davis getting his special treatment against Roach. Both Davis and Whyte were aided obviously by incredibly bad refereeing.

[Dakuwaqa]

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