Funny thing is, pre-Zhang Wilder would probably be a bigger problem for Usyk than Fury was

[IronDanHamza]

Wilder’s got a punchers chance and that’s it.

[FlatLine]

No way is AJ second best of this era.

He got battered and quit vs Ruiz and battered and sparked by Dubois.

And that was a prime, confident AJ against Dubois.

Hrgovic is better than AJ that's for sure

Zhang? Bakole? Kabayel? Quite possibly.

AJ might not be top 5 of this era

Fury may not be number 2 as well I'll grant you that, it's very hard to rate this era outside of Usyk because the so many fights haven't happened.

I think there's every chance a Bakole or Kabayel gives Usyk his toughest fight at heavyweight.

Thats a past prime AJ who got battered by Dubois, but a prime Fury got battered by Ngannou. There's no comparison really. Fury's hype machine is over now, he was never as good as we were led to believe. He hyped up Wilder too and a lot of people fell for his tricks. If you think Hrgovic is better than AJ then you're saying he's better than Fury too. Zhang, Bakole and Agit may be better than Fury too, I'd agree on that one.

[daggum]

Yeah I have to agree, it would have been a good style match up but unfortunately for Wilder, he had a very incompetent team and stu pid management backing him (too many unnecessary beatings).

I would like to see Wilder rebuild and try his hand at Bridgerweight and fight Usyk there.

What? His management team was great. They managed to trick people into thinking he was a top guy when he clearly was not. They took a wrong turn in thinking fury was shot but wilder would still be undefeated knocking out bums for that wrong move but then again he did that for 5 years and got awat with it, that's like betting black 10 times and hitting every time. Amazing with a bum like wilder

[NihonJim]

Thats a past prime AJ who got battered by Dubois, but a prime Fury got battered by Ngannou.

Quality banter

[Damn Wicked]

You guys are still delusional about Wilder's quality. Even Fury didn't fight Wilder with particularly good "boxing" in the second and third fight, he simply employed aggressive overpowering tactics because he saw that Wilder couldn't take any sustained pressure. Usyk's pressure is a lot faster, more precise, much more constant, and he doesn't slow down. Wilder would be caught out of position so often with his horrible feet and balance that he would be in deep waters early in the fight. I think the most likely outcome would be for Usyk to stop Wilder or give him a horrible sustained beating. Wilder just couldn't handle guys who could move. He did well with big targets that mostly stood right in front of him. Even little Spilka was getting the better of him through much of their fight. Wilder also didn't have great stamina...heart, yes, but stamina, no. Fury knew all these qualities, or LACK of qualities about Wilder and that's why the 2nd and 3rd fight, he chose to fight him head on with reckless abandon...Particularly that third fight. Bermaine Stiverne was a perfect opponent for any tall fighter that could punch because Stiverne was so low output and plodding. He could only explode on a fighter if they were well within his reach, but he couldn't be effective with longer guys or fleetfooted boxers. The wins against him were smoke and mirrors for Wilder.

I'm still surprised at how many people bought into the extreme Wilder hype. How many times do you guys need to be proven wrong.

[FlatLine]

Quality banter

You think Fury can legit beat Ngannou in a rematch? Most people thought he got battered and lost to a novice making his pro debut.

[HandsofIron]

What? His management team was great. They managed to trick people into thinking he was a top guy when he clearly was not. They took a wrong turn in thinking fury was shot but wilder would still be undefeated knocking out bums for that wrong move but then again he did that for 5 years and got awat with it, that's like betting black 10 times and hitting every time. Amazing with a bum like wilder

Hey, I'm no fan of Wilder, I actually laughed when he got his ass beat multiple times and his co cky, band wagon fans ate crow but I call it like I see it.

Wilder would have been more effective at either Cruiser or Bridger.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder wouln't ecen try to win rounds. He needs one shot.

[daggum]

Hey, I'm no fan of Wilder, I actually laughed when he got his ass beat multiple times and his co cky, band wagon fans ate crow but I call it like I see it.

Wilder would have been more effective at either Cruiser or Bridger.

he had a good run avoiding the munguia-surace type upset, even a bum can beat you and if you fight enough bums which he surely did, one is sure to get you

[Marchegiano]

Yeah, Wilder's one cat the boxing advantages matter less for, but Wilder seems to have a hard time finding his balls these days. If he found his balls he could be a threat to any HW again. Anyone seen Wilder's balls?