Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk open to a second fight with Daniel Dubois

[PNUT901]

Who wants to back up this YANG about Parker beating The Beast that is Big DOOBIE with a twenty , U.S money ? Ya'll got me pissed off talking about some Mid Ocean pretender beating THE IBF CHAMPION OF THE WORLD ! What cheek ! Come on , you tossers , put your twenty where your mouth is !

All you have to do is say , "I'll take that bet PNUT .

NO email , no checking and double , and triple checking. We book the bet and settle up on CashApp after the fight. This aint Black Robb - er. If I tell you that we have a bet , that's it. I'm a man of my word.


takenotes , JakeTheBoxer , pollywogg , crimsonfalcon07

Anyone else picking Peter Parker Picked A Pepper is welcome as well.

WAR BIG DOOBIE !

Your move Tribe Parker.

[pollywog]

Who wants to back up this YANG about Parker beating The Beast that is Big DOOBIE with a twenty , U.S money ? Ya'll got me pissed off talking about some Mid Ocean pretender beating THE IBF CHAMPION OF THE WORLD ! What cheek ! Come on , you tossers , put your twenty where your mouth is !

All you have to do is say , "I'll take that bet PNUT .

NO email , no checking and double , and triple checking. We book the bet and settle up on CashApp after the fight. This aint Black Robb - er. If I tell you that we have a bet , that's it. I'm a man of my word.


takenotes , JakeTheBoxer , pollywogg , crimsonfalcon07

Anyone else picking Peter Parker Picked A Pepper is welcome as well.

WAR BIG DOOBIE !

Your move Tribe Parker.

Haha...if I was a bettin man, id take your wager and double it with the caveat that Parker knocks Doobie out or i get nothing.

Big Doobie is getting smoked by the Mighty Oilskin...BOOK IT!!!!

[PNUT901]

Haha...if I was a bettin man, id take your wager and double it with the caveat that Parker knocks Doobie out or i get nothing.

Big Doobie is getting smoked by the Mighty Oilskin...BOOK IT!!!!

Save your money. Wise choice. Big Doobie is the GODZILLA of the Heavyweight Division !

[Lance98]

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Should have or could have it would have is meaningless - Dubois got KO’d. Period.

“Try to beat him with no controversy”? How? 99% of boxing controversies are created by judges, ref Ms and promoters.

Usyk beat Dubois. Period. If it’s a question of unifying all the belts, then it makes sense but a rematch over a guy he KO’d is nonsense

Stop making excuses.

[eco1]

Why is Dubois thinking about Usyk when he should concentrate on Old Man Parker?

[pollywog]

Why is Dubois thinking about Usyk when he should concentrate on Old Man Parker?

Doobie thinks he's the shït just cos he splattered the giant glass jawed robot.

32 yr old man Parker is gonna fück him up!

[hugh grant]

Id like usyk to fight a few other top 10 guys, mix it up a bit, and then.rematch ddd. If usyk beats ddd a 2nd time, he's going to have such a fantastic resume.
And he did it all late, which is amazing.
Josh x2
Furyx2
DDDx2
Zhang x1
Bakole x1.
chisora x1
Parker x1

Id call usyk GOAT.

[PRINCEKOOL]

If the Undisputed title is on the line, then yes? Make the rematch against Daniel Dubois II 'But if not? Then I would say that this fight is bad match making for Oleksandr Uysk'.

It is bad match making, because out of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Derek Chisora and Daniel Dubois 'Uysk in reality actually beat Dubois the easiest. As I have been saying for quite some time in regard to Dubois? Yes he is a solid aggressive fighter, but he is also a front runner. And his World title fight against Oleksandr Uysk I, displayed this at top level'.

Daniel Dubois contrary to certain narratives, skill for skill clearly? He was not on the level of Oleksandr Uysk I 'You could definitively see the levels between the two fighters in terms of pure boxing ability'.

When Oleksandr Uysk fought Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Derek Chisora 'There was less of a gap, skill for skill between all of those fighters. Although Derek Chisora skill for skill overall, is not as good as both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. In specific areas of Derek Chisora';s game, I would rate him higher than Fury and Joshua. Derek Chisora's inside game, skill for skill is superior to Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua's inside game'.

Derek Chisora to his credit for 75 to 80% of his fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'Was able to force Uysk into his fight. And that is why the fight was competitive, and stylistically a very difficult contest for Uysk'.

We already know that Daniel Dubois is not the greatest of pure boxers, his best attribute's are his aggression, power and ability to produce punch combinations 'So, Dubois coming into his fight against Uysk I, was preparing to use very similar tactics to Derek Chisora'.

Daniel Dubois attempted to apply those tactics in the fight, and for a few rounds he produce a solid effort 'But by the middle rounds of the fight, he was pretty much done. And this is because Daniel Dubois is a front runner, and has been beaten the same way in all his top level fights'.

Don Charles in preparation for that fight, put a lot of emphasis on endurance 'And this reflected on the weigh in scales, as Daniel Dubois weighed in at 233 pounds. That is 15 pounds lighter, than he was vs Anthony Joshua. Dubois weighed in at 248 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 233 pounds vs Uysk'.

So, what does that tell all of you guys? Daniel Dubois trained and prepared with a major emphasis on improving his endurance 'And even with all that effort, Daniel Dubois still dramatically began to fade back to black soon as the fight reached the middle rounds. Daniel Dubois managed the pace of the fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I worse than Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Derek Chisora'.

I see many people getting carried away with Daniel Dubois's ability 'It is also very interesting the way, the boxing community have been very lenient towards Dubois on his past performances. In Daniel Dubois's two losses, he consciously decided not to continue on fighting. Or he has behaved in a way, which has given the referee no choice to stop the fight'.

In those fights Dubois still showed that he was a solid level fighter, and he did displayed courage vs Joe Joyce 'To battle for all those rounds with a serious injury. But regardless, the trend and trajectory in Daniel Dubois's true top level fights is very clear to detect'.

Even against Anthony Joshua 'Joshua from the very moment he was decked in the first rounds, was then working his way back into the fight. On his worst night ever as a professional boxer, round 2, round 3, round 4 and round 5. Joshua was getting stronger, and Dubois attacks were having less of a effect'.

Note: If the Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois fight, was subject to extreme statistical analysis 'And graphs where then created to record the data of the fight. The Joshua vs Dubois line graph, would display? That there was a catastrophic drop in Anthony Joshua's performance in the first round, and this would be due to being decked heavily'.

After the first round, the line graph would the show Anthony Joshua second by second, minute by minute fighting his way back into the fight. Yes, there would still be drops in his line as he was battling through the rounds. But the facts of the fight are? Joshua was getting stronger round by round, and Dubois's attacks were having less of a effect. It was only in the 5th round, when Anthony Joshua uncharacteristically made a unforced error wading into a power punch. That was the moment in my opinion, were Daniel Dubois to his credit took his opportunity to win the fight'.

When you look back at the fight statistically, and the trajectory of all Dubois's true top level fights 'It was looking like Daniel Dubois had to win the fight in that round. Otherwise there was a high likely-hood, that Anthony Joshua would of regained too much strength and smashed him up in a distance fight'.

In all of Daniel Dubois's true top level fights, the trajectory in those fights has been the same every single time 'Once the fight reaches the middle rounds, Daniel Dubois game on a multitude of levels begins to decrease'.

Daniel Dubois's fight vs Jarrell Miller does not disprove 'That he is a front runner. Jarrell Miller is a domestic level American heavyweight fighter, he was badly out of condition vs Dubois. And even if Miller was in condition, so what? Like I have just said, he has only ever been a domestic level American Heavyweight fighter'.

The main point I am trying to make is? We have just witnessed Tyson Fury switch up his tactics to a degree vs OIeksandr Uysk II in their rematch. Fury weighed in 19 pounds heavier than their first fight. Fury weighed in at 262 pound vs Uysk I, compared to 281 pound vs Uysk II'.

Tyson Fury has superior level of endurance to Daniel Dubois 'Fury is also skill for skill a better fighter. Gaining all of that mass for the rematch, seemed not to make much of difference in his attempts to beat Oleksandr Uysk II. And the visible signs were there that Fury, actually struggled with the pace in the second half of the fight much worse vs Oleksandr Uysk II'.

If Daniel Dubois stays in his current condition, or close to 'I personally believe, he will be beaten down systematically by Oleksandr Uysk II'. We have seen Dubois specifically train for endurance vs Uysk and still lose the fight conclusiveness. Daniel Dubois was decked by a jab, and then consciously decided to take his time on the canvas. Forcing the referee to stop the fight'.

To conclude: Don Charles and Daniel Dubois need to make sure, they beat Joseph Parker inside 6 to 8 rounds maximum 'Because once that fight goes past the middle rounds, I think there is a high likely-hood that Dubois will be completely done. Parker and his team in my opinion? Have too much information on how to beat Daniel Dubois. The entire Heavyweight Division, and all top level fighters are very aware of the blue print and template to beat Dubois'.

In regards to Oleksandr Uysk and his fights moving forward, I still potentially see fights vs Tyson Fury III or Anthony Joshua III in a trilogy fight 'But for that fight to happen, Fury and Joshua need to confront each other. The victor of their fight, can then fight the winner of Joseph Parker vs Daniel Dubois for the IBF World Heavyweight title'..

Other than the two potential trilogy fights against Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua 'The only other mega fight is against Zhilei Zhang' etc.

[Dolor]

Usyk is more after the legacy than after the money. So becoming undisputed at HW for a second time would probably be of interest to him.

A question for the knowledgeable here:

How many boxers so far have managed to become undisputed at HW (or at other weights) more than once? Has this ever happened since the beginning of the "multiple titleholders" era?

[hugh grant]

If the Undisputed title is on the line, then yes? Make the rematch against Daniel Dubois II 'But if not? Then I would say that this fight is bad match making for Oleksandr Uysk'.

It is bad match making, because out of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Derek Chisora and Daniel Dubois 'Uysk in reality actually beat Dubois the easiest. As I have been saying for quite some time in regard to Dubois? Yes he is a solid aggressive fighter, but he is also a front runner. And his World title fight against Oleksandr Uysk I, displayed this at top level'.

Daniel Dubois contrary to certain narratives, skill for skill clearly? He was not on the level of Oleksandr Uysk I 'You could definitively see the levels between the two fighters in terms of pure boxing ability'.

When Oleksandr Uysk fought Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Derek Chisora 'There was less of a gap, skill for skill between all of those fighters. Although Derek Chisora skill for skill overall, is not as good as both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. In specific areas of Derek Chisora';s game, I would rate him higher than Fury and Joshua. Derek Chisora's inside game, skill for skill is superior to Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua's inside game'.

Derek Chisora to his credit for 75 to 80% of his fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'Was able to force Uysk into his fight. And that is why the fight was competitive, and stylistically a very difficult contest for Uysk'.

We already know that Daniel Dubois is not the greatest of pure boxers, his best attribute's are his aggression, power and ability to produce punch combinations 'So, Dubois coming into his fight against Uysk I, was preparing to use very similar tactics to Derek Chisora'.

Daniel Dubois attempted to apply those tactics in the fight, and for a few rounds he produce a solid effort 'But by the middle rounds of the fight, he was pretty much done. And this is because Daniel Dubois is a front runner, and has been beaten the same way in all his top level fights'.

Don Charles in preparation for that fight, put a lot of emphasis on endurance 'And this reflected on the weigh in scales, as Daniel Dubois weighed in at 233 pounds. That is 15 pounds lighter, than he was vs Anthony Joshua. Dubois weighed in at 248 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 233 pounds vs Uysk'.

So, what does that tell all of you guys? Daniel Dubois trained and prepared with a major emphasis on improving his endurance 'And even with all that effort, Daniel Dubois still dramatically began to fade back to black soon as the fight reached the middle rounds. Daniel Dubois managed the pace of the fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I worse than Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Derek Chisora'.

I see many people getting carried away with Daniel Dubois's ability 'It is also very interesting the way, the boxing community have been very lenient towards Dubois on his past performances. In Daniel Dubois's two losses, he consciously decided not to continue on fighting. Or he has behaved in a way, which has given the referee no choice to stop the fight'.

In those fights Dubois still showed that he was a solid level fighter, and he did displayed courage vs Joe Joyce 'To battle for all those rounds with a serious injury. But regardless, the trend and trajectory in Daniel Dubois's true top level fights is very clear to detect'.

Even against Anthony Joshua 'Joshua from the very moment he was decked in the first rounds, was then working his way back into the fight. On his worst night ever as a professional boxer, round 2, round 3, round 4 and round 5. Joshua was getting stronger, and Dubois attacks were having less of a effect'.

Note: If the Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois fight, was subject to extreme statistical analysis 'And graphs where then created to record the data of the fight. The Joshua vs Dubois line graph, would display? That there was a catastrophic drop in Anthony Joshua's performance in the first round, and this would be due to being decked heavily'.

After the first round, the line graph would the show Anthony Joshua second by second, minute by minute fighting his way back into the fight. Yes, there would still be drops in his line as he was battling through the rounds. But the facts of the fight are? Joshua was getting stronger round by round, and Dubois's attacks were having less of a effect. It was only in the 5th round, when Anthony Joshua uncharacteristically made a unforced error wading into a power punch. That was the moment in my opinion, were Daniel Dubois to his credit took his opportunity to win the fight'.

When you look back at the fight statistically, and the trajectory of all Dubois's true top level fights 'It was looking like Daniel Dubois had to win the fight in that round. Otherwise there was a high likely-hood, that Anthony Joshua would of regained too much strength and smashed him up in a distance fight'.

In all of Daniel Dubois's true top level fights, the trajectory in those fights has been the same every single time 'Once the fight reaches the middle rounds, Daniel Dubois game on a multitude of levels begins to decrease'.

Daniel Dubois's fight vs Jarrell Miller does not disprove 'That he is a front runner. Jarrell Miller is a domestic level American heavyweight fighter, he was badly out of condition vs Dubois. And even if Miller was in condition, so what? Like I have just said, he has only ever been a domestic level American Heavyweight fighter'.

The main point I am trying to make is? We have just witnessed Tyson Fury switch up his tactics to a degree vs OIeksandr Uysk II in their rematch. Fury weighed in 19 pounds heavier than their first fight. Fury weighed in at 262 pound vs Uysk I, compared to 281 pound vs Uysk II'.

Tyson Fury has superior level of endurance to Daniel Dubois 'Fury is also skill for skill a better fighter. Gaining all of that mass for the rematch, seemed not to make much of difference in his attempts to beat Oleksandr Uysk II. And the visible signs were there that Fury, actually struggled with the pace in the second half of the fight much worse vs Oleksandr Uysk II'.

If Daniel Dubois stays in his current condition, or close to 'I personally believe, he will be beaten down systematically by Oleksandr Uysk II'. We have seen Dubois specifically train for endurance vs Uysk and still lose the fight conclusiveness. Daniel Dubois was decked by a jab, and then consciously decided to take his time on the canvas. Forcing the referee to stop the fight'.

To conclude: Don Charles and Daniel Dubois need to make sure, they beat Joseph Parker inside 6 to 8 rounds maximum 'Because once that fight goes past the middle rounds, I think there is a high likely-hood that Dubois will be completely done. Parker and his team in my opinion? Have too much information on how to beat Daniel Dubois. The entire Heavyweight Division, and all top level fighters are very aware of the blue print and template to beat Dubois'.

In regards to Oleksandr Uysk and his fights moving forward, I still potentially see fights vs Tyson Fury III or Anthony Joshua III in a trilogy fight 'But for that fight to happen, Fury and Joshua need to confront each other. The victor of their fight, can then fight the winner of Joseph Parker vs Daniel Dubois for the IBF World Heavyweight title'..

Other than the two potential trilogy fights against Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua 'The only other mega fight is against Zhilei Zhang' etc.

I think fury would best josh, so then if fury can beat ddd v parker winner to get usyk that would be great for fury, if fury wants 3rd fight. But fury might have to fight his friend parker?
Usyk v zhang is good. Also I think bakole too, as bakole will look nice on resume