Fury is past his prime...the Francis Ngonu fight showed that. He use to be somewhat agile for a guy his size, he has still has good hand speed, but no movement. Yes Uysk is faster and smaller, but Fury looked like crap against Ngonu.
Now what he could do is fight a no name get a win, Joshua fights a no name and gets a win, and they FIGHT EACH OTHER which could be pretty much the end of both their careers.
I have been saying for about 1 year Fury was doing himself no favor and was regressing badly fighting Chisora`s , Whyte`s and so on. these guys are nowhere near Usyk`s level.
But no, many guys here complained, trying to convince me Fury was still N.1. lol.
I have been saying for about 1 year Fury was doing himself no favor and was regressing badly fighting Chisora`s , Whyte`s and so on. these guys are nowhere near Usyk`s level.
But no, many guys here complained, trying to convince me Fury was still N.1. lol.
Against whyte, he was still on peak form. After that.. the chisoras and ngganous were all waste of time and what he has left
Hasn't fought at a high standard for a very long time. And it's still debatable just how good he ever was.
He was certainly good. He was certainly top 5. He was a worthy titlist. I don't know that he ever did enough to be considered clearly better than his rivals, and certainly didn't do enough to be considered a great champion.
What's left? Well he could finally go and fight some of those top half of the top 10 ranked kind of guys. His CV feels a bit shallow and hollow right now. He definitely should fight Joshua if he wants his claims of being better than him to have some substance instead of just being claims. Dubois would be a great fight, assuming he comes through against Parker.
He'll probably just fight Chisora again. Or Wilder again.
Hasn't fought at a high standard for a very long time. And it's still debatable just how good he ever was.
He was certainly good. He was certainly top 5. He was a worthy titlist. I don't know that he ever did enough to be considered clearly better than his rivals, and certainly didn't do enough to be considered a great champion.
What's left? Well he could finally go and fight some of those top half of the top 10 ranked kind of guys. His CV feels a bit shallow and hollow right now. He definitely should fight Joshua if he wants his claims of being better than him to have some substance instead of just being claims. Dubois would be a great fight, assuming he comes through against Parker.
He'll probably just fight Chisora again. Or Wilder again.
Yeah, Fury`s CV is poor speaking of top 10 opponents.
Bakole, Parker, Dubois, Kabayel, Zhang all are good fight for him.
Hasn't fought at a high standard for a very long time. And it's still debatable just how good he ever was.
He was certainly good. He was certainly top 5. He was a worthy titlist. I don't know that he ever did enough to be considered clearly better than his rivals, and certainly didn't do enough to be considered a great champion.
What's left? Well he could finally go and fight some of those top half of the top 10 ranked kind of guys. His CV feels a bit shallow and hollow right now. He definitely should fight Joshua if he wants his claims of being better than him to have some substance instead of just being claims. Dubois would be a great fight, assuming he comes through against Parker.
He'll probably just fight Chisora again. Or Wilder again.
His fights with usyk — a high standard fighter — are already proof about Fury’s level. He gave Usyk his hardest fight, and Usyk said he is his toughest as well.
So if a high standard, undisputed, undefeated, reigning champ that doesn’t say too much BS gives you props like Usyk gave fury… i’d believe him in a heartbeat.
Fury has long passed the eye test. Displayed his skills multiple times for a guy his size. Came short against the best of his era and there’s no shame in that.
what more proof of level do u need other than having close fights with the best of your era. Where else should we gauge him lol
His fights with usyk — a high standard fighter — are already proof about Fury’s level. He gave Usyk his hardest fight, and Usyk said he is his toughest as well.
So if a high standard, undisputed, undefeated, reigning champ that doesn’t say too much BS gives you props like Usyk gave fury… i’d believe him in a heartbeat.
Fury has long passed the eye test. Displayed his skills multiple times for a guy his size. Came short against the best of his era and there’s no shame in that.
what more proof of level do u need other than having close fights with the best of your era. Where else should we gauge him lol
Simple, you don't judge fighters in a losing effort. That's how Ortiz and Wallin got themselves so highly prized.
And Usyk said the opposite only last week. Before saying that this fight was easier than the last one. Let's give him a bit of leeway on ranking the rest of the division.
Eye test? Ok, yes he's good. But definitively would beat Joshua based on your very subjective view that he was a bit better against Usyk? Across 4 losing efforts?
I think I'd rather see them fight for the right to claim that. All I know is that Usyk is better than them both.
Simple, you don't judge fighters in a losing effort. That's how Ortiz and Wallin got themselves so highly prized.
And Usyk said the opposite only last week. Before saying that this fight was easier than the last one. Let's give him a bit of leeway on ranking the rest of the division.
Eye test? Ok, yes he's good. But definitively would beat Joshua based on your very subjective view that he was a bit better against Usyk? Across 4 losing efforts?
I think I'd rather see them fight for the right to claim that. All I know is that Usyk is better than them both.
It's disingenuous to compare Usyk vs fury to Wallin and Ortiz
Fury and Usyk were universally recognized #1 and #2 in the division and they have fought two competitive fights which would appear to confirm that.
I wouldn't say he was a "bit" better than Joshua against Usyk, fury won several rounds clearly against Usyk and had periods of prolonged success, something Joshua never did.
Anyway on topic, Fury vs AJ is all that's left, yes it's well past it's sell by date but it will still sell out Wembley and by the time it rolls around everyone who says they aren't interested will end up watching it.
Beyond that there's not much left, AJ is totally finished and Fury is well on the way out, I think fury "could" still beat some of the top 10, but I think he's going to decline with every fight and won't make it to a title shot again before he's totally finished.
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