At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?

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  • Haka
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    #271
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    It's all disputed, only you are too dumb to realize; maybe if you actually read posts, answered a few questions here and there, and digested what was said, you would understand, but I don't think you're capable of it.

    Originally posted by Roadblock

    Dont you get sick of it for fck sake , there is not one type of greatness it comes in many forms, just like your a great hater with a miniature mind. there is no greatest just a bunch of greats that get into the building, its easier to do at HW than in the lighter divisions, which is why the top 4 HWs just keep going around trading the same belts, doesnt happen in the lighter divisions because all the top guys are killers and there is more of them in the lighter weights and guys are changing divisions like every week. You can hate on Floyd but he was one of the greatest boxers to ever step in, just live with it.

    There is so many areas where HW cannot be compared to say a LW, its just different competition, HW is all on its own in boxing, big money rematches because the general media are all over HW and always have been, only a few of the great lighter weights guys get as big publicly as the HWs, probably only 6/10 lighter divisions guys have really made it to that HW type of status..

    The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
    • Canelo Alvarez (42-0 at the time)
    • Ricky Hatton (43-0 at the time)
    • Diego Corrales (33-0 at their fight)
    • Zab Judah (who was considered the #1 welterweight when they fought)


    In the prior thread, you made the assertion that Mayweather was one of the greatest boxers ever, based on his victories over prime fighters like Canelo, Hatton, Corrales, and Judah. However, there are critical nuances that complicate this view.

    You mentioned Canelo, but it's essential to consider that the Canelo fight took place at a catchweight, rendering the notion of facing Canelo at his "prime" somewhat contentious. So, removing him from the equation, we are left with Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales, and Zab Judah as Mayweather’s prime opponents.

    While these are notable names, we must evaluate them in context. Hatton, though undefeated at the time, was moving up in weight to face Mayweather and wasn’t quite the same dominant force at welterweight as he was in his natural light welterweight division. Corrales was an excellent fighter, but his stylistic limitations and his weight struggles prior to the fight undermine the level of difficulty that Mayweather faced. Judah, while a strong welterweight, had shown inconsistency and mental lapses in prior fights, making his status as the #1 welterweight debatable.

    In essence, the argument for Mayweather as one of the greatest hinges on a limited pool of prime opponents, particularly when compared to fighters in other weight classes, where competition is deeper and more varied. To claim greatness based on these specific wins alone requires overlooking certain context that diminishes the weight of the achievements.

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    • Roadblock
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      #272
      Originally posted by Haka









      In the prior thread, you made the assertion that Mayweather was one of the greatest boxers ever, based on his victories over prime fighters like Canelo, Hatton, Corrales, and Judah. However, there are critical nuances that complicate this view.

      You mentioned Canelo, but it's essential to consider that the Canelo fight took place at a catchweight, rendering the notion of facing Canelo at his "prime" somewhat contentious. So, removing him from the equation, we are left with Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales, and Zab Judah as Mayweather’s prime opponents.

      While these are notable names, we must evaluate them in context. Hatton, though undefeated at the time, was moving up in weight to face Mayweather and wasn’t quite the same dominant force at welterweight as he was in his natural light welterweight division. Corrales was an excellent fighter, but his stylistic limitations and his weight struggles prior to the fight undermine the level of difficulty that Mayweather faced. Judah, while a strong welterweight, had shown inconsistency and mental lapses in prior fights, making his status as the #1 welterweight debatable.

      In essence, the argument for Mayweather as one of the greatest hinges on a limited pool of prime opponents, particularly when compared to fighters in other weight classes, where competition is deeper and more varied. To claim greatness based on these specific wins alone requires overlooking certain context that diminishes the weight of the achievements.
      Thats not my opinion, I dont give a fck what your opinion is because you dont know much about boxing, your interpretation is based on your own BS not facts, its all meaningless rhetoric , Floyd will be in the history books forever what you think means nothing lol.

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        #273
        He beats them all again and maybe easier

        People used to claim another fighter beat Floyd if they won even 1 round lol that's how much better he was

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          #274
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          Thats not my opinion, I dont give a fck what your opinion is because you dont know much about boxing, your interpretation is based on your own BS not facts, its all meaningless rhetoric , Floyd will be in the history books forever what you think means nothing lol.
          Your inclination to truncate analysis prematurely is a consistent impediment to achieving intellectual depth.

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            #275
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            [LIST][*]The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
            • Zab Judah (who was considered the #1 welterweight when they fought)


            I thought that was Baldymir who Judah lost to

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              #276
              Originally posted by djtmal

              I thought that was Baldymir who Judah lost to
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              Baldomir > HORN, Rios, Broner, Lucas, Shot DLH, Vargas.......

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              • Roadblock
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                #277
                Originally posted by Haka

                Your inclination to truncate analysis prematurely is a consistent impediment to achieving intellectual depth.
                You got it all wrong, I don't respect haters at all I find them unintelligent and highly inclined to twist the truth into their beliefs, they don't have analysis they have fantasy, and the really dumb ones feed their fantasy into AI, thinking they are making a good post it only shows how much they don't know.

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                  #278
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  I thought that was Baldymir who Judah lost to
                  Only a r-e-t-ar-d will continually take words out of context, and they do it because the context of the whole blows them away so they must make a new reality, haters are such a bunch of empty heads Ive never seen a smart hater.
                  Last edited by Roadblock; 12-23-2024, 12:53 AM.

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                  • Haka
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    You got it all wrong, I don't respect haters at all I find them unintelligent and highly inclined to twist the truth into their beliefs, they don't have analysis they have fantasy, and the really dumb ones feed their fantasy into AI, thinking they are making a good post it only shows how much they don't know.
                    Dismissing ideas without clarity only weakens your point. Let’s move beyond blanket statements—what specifically do you disagree with, and why?

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by Haka

                      Dismissing ideas without clarity only weakens your point. Let’s move beyond blanket statements—what specifically do you disagree with, and why?
                      Lets start here, show me how you analyze this and what it really means.

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