At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?

[Roadblock]

I didn't say he was necessarily too old. He tweaked his style to complete after he could no longer stay active for full 3 minutes of every round as aging will do to you. Though the style we expected to see beat Mayweather was not there anymore, and again, add the shoulder injury to him, and he really was firing blank rounds.

I'm not butt hurt over anything other than folks that think it was an incredible win for Mayweather or that he had the better career. I think Pac said it best when asked recently. Mayweather didn't accomplish the feats he did and being undefeated is not a big deal anymore. There are other undefeated fighters that retired. It should not be part of the conversation to determine what was greater that the two did.

Just out of curiosity who is undefeated and matches Floyds resume, to go from 130 to 154 and remain undefeated beating the level of guys that he beat, its makes a world of difference in who you beat to remain undefeated, just being undefeated on face value means nothing, name some names.

This is the same wishy-washy argument all the haters put up, why don't they name a guy to compare him to in the context of their point, they never do because all of a sudden their argument is watered down to the sht house because Floyd accomplished more across his entire body of work, so they stoop to opened ended BS that doesn't mean anything other than hating.

[djtmal]

Just out of curiosity who is undefeated and matches Floyds resume, to go from 130 to 154 and remain undefeated beating the level of guys that he beat, its makes a world of difference in who you beat to remain undefeated, just being undefeated on face value means nothing, name some names.

This is the same wishy-washy argument all the haters put up, why don't they name a guy to compare him to in the context of their point, they never do because all of a sudden their argument is watered down to the sht house because Floyd accomplished more across his entire body of work, so they stoop to opened ended BS that doesn't mean anything other than hating.

Yet when you ask simple questions like how many prime all time great welterweights Floyd beat, or even how many natural welterweights not guys who came up from the lower weights, you get nothing but excuses

Even the guys listed in this thread. None of those guys were in their prime, and none of them are natural welterweights

[Roadblock]

Yet when you ask simple questions like how many prime all time great welterweights Floyd beat, or even how many natural welterweights not guys who came up from the lower weights, you get nothing but excuses

Even the guys listed in this thread. None of those guys were in their prime, and none of them are natural welterweights

Wtf you on about, how many questions have I asked you and you cant answer a single one. Floyd is not natural WW did you forget that part of your ridiculousness, just more of your brain dead double standards as usual.

[BodyBagz]

SRL
Hearns
Tito Trinidad
Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Terry Norris
Pernell Whitaker
SRR
Wilfredo Benitez
Keith Thurman
Paul Williams
Margarito

Floyd isn’t getting past half that list

May got by Pac, doe

[BodyBagz]

Yeah neither guy was prime. Though a older defensive guy typically beats an older offensive guy whose style worked in his prime. Add the fact that there was an injury, Floyd looked a lot bigger, and Pac had no chance. He had all the cards stacked against him. Though that's fine. He represents the difficulty immigrants have in this country where they're not given a fair shake always and have to deal with disadvantages to try and get ahead. Floyd is like the spoiled American super star who gets everything he demands including stipulations to disadvantage his opponent.

The easiest imagery of what happened that I can compare this is to Gladiator 1, if you ever watched that. Right before Commodus goes to fight Maximus in the arena, he stabs Maximus in the back shoulder area, tells the dude to strap on the armor to cover the wound, and then go up in front of the big lights (bringing it back to the Pac-May match) and looked like a stud in front of the unknowing crowd. Yet you know what he did and are cool with that. Incredible.

Pac was not hurt.
Or not anywhere nearly as bad as he made it out to be after the fight.

When Berto tore his bicep, there was not mistaking it.

[BodyBagz]

I thought you were talking about Mosleys biggest win

Now you flip to the rematch which was closer but not a robbery

Mosley was a 2/1 dog vs DLH 1....meh
Same odds vs May
He was a 6/1 dog vs Margarito
Mosley was a 9/1 dog vs Pac

When I mentioned a robbery, I assumed you'd know which fight I was talking about.
I was wrong.
You're pretty dim.

[Haka]

Wtf you on about, how many questions have I asked you and you cant answer a single one. Floyd is not natural WW did you forget that part of your ridiculousness, just more of your brain dead double standards as usual.

Now you are dodging the fact again that even though Floyd came from lower weights, all his opponents came from lower weights. Besides how high would you rank Prime Bradley if it were an Floyd resume. Atleast try and formulate your position when you come out and argue.

[Haka]

Maidana > Ruslan

Maidana was already on his way out though after those 3L's, his upset against Broner was a cherrypick gone wrong for Broner.

[Roadblock]

Now you are dodging the fact again that even though Floyd came from lower weights, all his opponents came from lower weights. Besides how high would you rank Prime Bradley if it were an Floyd resume. Atleast try and formulate your position when you come out and argue.

I think Floyd would school the sht out of Bradley and to me Bradley is nowhere near Cotto Oscar Mosley, prime Hatton that Floyd beat would beat Bradley by going a step further than Ruslan, not all of Floyds opponents came from lower weights I don't know what youre on about there, who came from 130 and below?

My position is Floyd is not a WW, just as Manny is not a WW, why do you expect from Floyd what you would never expect from Manny?

Is that formulated so you understand the question or is it another invisible question.

[Haka]

I think Floyd would school the sht out of Bradley and to me Bradley is nowhere near Cotto Oscar Mosley, prime Hatton that Floyd beat would beat Bradley by going a step further than Ruslan, not all of Floyds opponents came from lower weights I don't know what youre on about there, who came from 130 and below?

My position is Floyd is not a WW, just as Manny is not a WW, why do you expect from Floyd what you would never expect from Manny?

Is that formulated so you understand the question or is it another invisible question.

Definition of "Prime":

Performance Consistency:
Maintaining an unbeaten streak in championship fights
Physical and Neurological Integrity:
Showing sharpness in reflexes, speed, and decision-making, free from evident decline due to age or wear.
Contextual Relevance:
Competing in fights of significance within their weight class, team dynamics, and preparation quality.

Assessing Floyd's Opponents and Resume:

Miguel Cotto:
By the time Floyd fought Cotto, Cotto had faced a brutal career trajectory, including wars with Margarito and Pacquiao. He had lost some of his "prime" sharpness.
He was still a dangerous opponent, but not at his peak.
Oscar De La Hoya:
Clearly past his prime when facing Floyd. Oscar was older, no longer as quick or consistent. His sharpness was fading.
Shane Mosley:
Mosley was out of his prime; his speed and stamina had notably declined. The brief success against Floyd (early rounds) was not sustained, underscoring diminished endurance.
Ricky Hatton:
Prime Hatton? Yes. Undefeated, aggressive, and near his physical peak when he faced Floyd. While Hatton had defensive gaps, this was among Floyd's meaningful prime victories.
Timothy Bradley:
If placed on Floyd’s resume, Bradley's prime would rival Hatton’s. Bradley was undefeated, technically sound, and physically at his best during his top-level years (notably against Marquez and Pacquiao in the first fight).

Ranking:

Bradley arguably stands as Floyd's #1 or #2 most "prime" opponent under these criteria.

Conclusion and Position Clarification:

Floyd’s welterweight resume consists of fighters largely outside their prime, with exceptions like Hatton.
Prime Bradley would represent a formidable addition, likely ranking as #1 or #2 in terms of opposition quality.