Imagine suing somebody for battery in a professionally sanctioned fight.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

That's the only reason why he'd take that.

It was obvious a few days before the fight that Ryan was looking like he was not gonna make weight and the Haney's called him out on it, thus the $500k per pound bet. It stands to reason that had Ryan not have taken Ostarine, he would have weighed a couple of pounds heavier than what he weighed when he hopped on the scale....

[The D3vil]

...Still interested in how Ostarine improves punch resistance.

Improved endurance helps you remain upright longer.

As Jimmy Johnson said, "Fatigue makes a coward of us all"

If he's exhausted from the weight cut during the fight, he might have not made it into the later rounds.

Again, why take it if it doesn't do anything?

My opinion on why Ryan took Ostarine has always been that he knew he wasn't gonna be able to make weight a week before the fight so he took it to try and lose weight rapidly...

Yeah, that's cheating.

If he didn't take it, he might not have made it to the fight or been much weaker from the weight cut.

The mind is a beautiful thing.
Any proof roids doing anything a natural fighter cant do ?

Mind you, plenty of natural boxers were able to cut weight DLH, Cotto come to mind

98% of all non HWs train like beasts

Bradley is living proof that muscles don't always mean power.
Ditto Hearns.

Plenty of natural fighters have great stamina. Too many to mention.

So, I ask again
What can a roider do that a natural fighter CAN'T do

Don't keep me waiting

If it doesn't do anything, then why take it?

Don't keep me waiting???

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Improved endurance helps you remain upright longer.

As Jimmy Johnson said, "Fatigue makes a coward of us all"

If he's exhausted from the weight cut during the fight, he might have not made it into the later rounds.

Again, why take it if it doesn't do anything?



Yeah, that's cheating.

If he didn't take it, he might not have made it to the fight or been much weaker from the weight cut.



If it doesn't do anything, then why take it?

Don't keep me waiting???

I've not once argued with you whether he cheated or not. The guy popped dirty for ostarine, that's a fact. I believe he took it to lose weight in a hurry and that's obviously cheating because he couldn't do it on his own effort. I've only argued points that you made that I believe were inaccurate and I've brought up facts to base my arguments on.

You can scroll back to see what points I have argued and you will see that none of them are about whether Ryan did or didn't cheat. The only opinion I have argued is why he chose to take Ostarine, which obviously is an opinion and not a fact. Your opinion on why he took Ostarine more than likely differs from mine and that is ok, but neither you nor I can be proven wrong on our opinion, unless Ryan decides to admit that he purposely took Ostarine and the reason why.

We can give educated opinions and argue why we feel the way we do, but that's about it. Yes, if he hadn't taken Ostarine he might have been much weaker trying to make weight, although I believe he wouldn't have tried either way and would have agreed to pay a bigger dollar amount on the bet he made...

[IronDanHamza]

Improved endurance helps you remain upright longer.

As Jimmy Johnson said, "Fatigue makes a coward of us all"

If he's exhausted from the weight cut during the fight, he might have not made it into the later rounds.:

So you've now claimed it improves punch resistance (it doesn't) and followed on by saying it improves endurance (it doesn't).

So you've changed your incorrect position for another incorrect position.

Is there a reason you continue to pass comment on this topic when you have NOT EVEN THE FIRST CLUE what you're talking about in regards to it?

[IronDanHamza]

I've not once argued with you whether he cheated or not. The guy popped dirty for ostarine, that's a fact. I believe he took it to lose weight in a hurry and that's obviously cheating because he couldn't do it on his own effort. I've only argued points that you made that I believe were inaccurate and I've brought up facts to base my arguments on.

You can scroll back to see what points I have argued and you will see that none of them are about whether Ryan did or didn't cheat. The only opinion I have argued is why he chose to take Ostarine, which obviously is an opinion and not a fact. Your opinion on why he took Ostarine more than likely differs from mine and that is ok, but neither you nor I can be proven wrong on our opinion, unless Ryan decides to admit that he purposely to Ostarine and the reason why.

We can give educated opinions and argue why we feel the way we do, but that's about it. Yes, if he hadn't taken Ostarine he might have been much weaker trying to make weight, although I believe he wouldn't have tried either way and would have agreed to pay a bigger dollar amount on the bet he made...

Wouldn't make a difference.

Cutting weight on a PED and cutting weight naturally is going to be incredibly harsh and exhausting on the body regardless, would have zero effect on the punch resistance of a fighter whether a fighter is using a cutting agent or not. In fact you could argue cutting weight with the assistance of PED's would actually exhaust and weaken the body more due to the rapid rate you're aggressively cutting the weight.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Wouldn't make a difference.

Cutting weight on a PED and cutting weight naturally is going to be incredibly harsh and exhausting on the body regardless, would have zero effect on the punch resistance of a fighter whether a fighter is using a cutting agent or not. In fact you could argue cutting weight with the assistance of PED's would actually exhaust and weaken the body more due to the rapid rate you're aggressively cutting the weight.

I don't disagree with your reasoning and your points are valid, but because the chap was expressing his opinion, I agreed with him that he might have been weaker had he not taken Ostarine and instead given it the old college try to cut weight, but it's not a fact that he would have.

[BodyBagz]

Improved endurance helps you remain upright longer.

As Jimmy Johnson said, "Fatigue makes a coward of us all"

If he's exhausted from the weight cut during the fight, he might have not made it into the later rounds.

Again, why take it if it doesn't do anything?



Yeah, that's cheating.

If he didn't take it, he might not have made it to the fight or been much weaker from the weight cut.



If it doesn't do anything, then why take it?

Don't keep me waiting???

You ignored like 98% of that post !!!

Like I said, the mind is a beautiful thing.
If a person THINKS something will work they will try it.

So....you gonna address the other 98% ????

I'll wait

[The D3vil]

So you've now claimed it improves punch resistance (it doesn't) and followed on by saying it improves endurance (it doesn't).

So you've changed your incorrect position for another incorrect position.

Is there a reason you continue to pass comment on this topic when you have NOT EVEN THE FIRST CLUE what you're talking about in regards to it?

Dude, you got it.

I've learned that you just like to argue & there's no convincing you of anything, so have at it.

[The D3vil]

You ignored like 98% of that post !!!

Like I said, the mind is a beautiful thing.
If a person THINKS something will work they will try it.

So....you gonna address the other 98% ????

I'll wait

There's nothing to address.

Either PEDs work or they don't.

If they don't work, then why take them?

If they work, then anybody who gets in the ring with you is facing an unrealistic danger because you're not the fighter they signed up to fight.

Simple.

I got nothing else to say to you

[IronDanHamza]

Dude, you got it.

I've learned that you just like to argue & there's no convincing you of anything, so have at it.

Not at all, actually.

Convince me? Convince me of what? That Ostarine does things that is objectively DOES NOT do?

I'm more than happy to debate this topic, or any topic.

I have a problem with the fact you are talking utter nonsense. Why do you do that? I don't understand.

You've just said that Ostarine both increases punch resistance and endurance. It objectively does neither of those things.

So my question to you, again, is why do you pass comment on topics that you clearly know nothing about?