why are people calling the pac and morales figtht close??

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  • Run
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    #51
    I think everyone needs to give credit where it is due for christ's sake. Manny is a hell of a fighter, and warrior with great punching power and stamina. One can question his ring intelligence, which I think is his worst facet. If he learns from this loss, this will only make him stronger. Look at the physical condition he is in, and the tools he has.

    That being said though, Morales is just on another level IMO. He has been beating Class "A" competition in the states for years. Manny has had a few decent matchups, but one can ultimately question his fights in the Phillipines, where he was beating up fishermen.

    Manny is a hell of a fighter, but look at the 1st tier guys. They surpass him in ring intelligence...and it shows when manny was made semi-akward against JMM and Morales.

    Someone mentioned the "Shane Mosley Syndrome". That is a pretty decent comparison.



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    Last edited by Run; 03-21-2005, 04:43 PM.

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    • DR. FREECLOUD
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      #52
      Originally posted by m00ks
      Excellent post. As much as it pained me to see, thats' what I saw the second time around. But when Morales switched to southpaw, ah **** I was just praying for a KO to teach that punk Morales a humility lesson lol That would have been ****** and funny.
      you know i am not a huge morales fan but i really did want him to win. i have to pull for my mexican bros. i like manny but not most of his fans. alot of you guys on this site are awesome though. so i can say that in the 12th i was scared but knew manny couldn't hurt him too bad.

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      • oldgringo
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        #53
        Originally posted by DR. FREECLOUD
        you know i am not a huge morales fan but i really did want him to win. i have to pull for my mexican bros. i like manny but not most of his fans. alot of you guys on this site are awesome though. so i can say that in the 12th i was scared but knew manny couldn't hurt him too bad.

        Who were you before dammit? I've been meaning to ask this forever.

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        • m00ks
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          #54
          Originally posted by DR. FREECLOUD
          you know i am not a huge morales fan but i really did want him to win. i have to pull for my mexican bros. i like manny but not most of his fans. alot of you guys on this site are awesome though. so i can say that in the 12th i was scared but knew manny couldn't hurt him too bad.
          He sure sold you and all of us to the drama though.
          Morales has that one of a kind skill. But of course if he was as conservative as mayweather, b-hop or roy jones (in his prime)... he wouldn't have amaassed such a large fan base. Guy does it on purpose which makes him fun to watch.

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          • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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            #55
            I think the fight seemed closer than it really was to some people because they were counting the amount of punches pac was throwing and not actually measuring how effective he was.

            Morales Was the more effective guy most of the fight. Pac would throw a 4 punch combo up close but they were at such a close distance and erik smothered them and came back with crisper jabs and right hands that repeatedly caught pacquiao off balance and stunned him in quite a few rounds and snapped his head back.

            The fight was good but if you go by Effective aggressiveness and Ring Generalship it was Morales hands down.

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            • beanstalk
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              #56
              Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
              I think the fight seemed closer than it really was to some people
              the fight seemed closer than it really was to MOST people, including the judges. Maybe you were rooting for EM while watching the fight.

              c'mon guys, admit it. if this was a blowout, then EM had a BLOWOUT loss to MAB.

              this will not be fight of the year candidate if it was one-sided. and i'm confident it will be.
              Last edited by beanstalk; 03-21-2005, 05:14 PM.

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              • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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                #57
                Originally posted by beanstalk
                the fight seemed closer than it really was to MOST people, including the judges. Maybe you were rooting for EM while watching the fight.

                c'mon guys, admit it. if this was a blowout, then EM had a BLOWOUT loss to MAB.
                That works both ways, Maybe you were rooting for pac.

                No matter who i was rooting for i watched the fight objectively and have watched it numerous times. Fights are scored on effectiveness and ring generalship right? Admit it that was Morales most of the fight.

                It wasnt a blow out but i had Morales winning the fight 8 rounds to 4.

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                • SacTown1
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                  #58
                  PEOPLE!!! Morales WON THE FIGHT! Who cares if it was by 1 point or 12, a win is a win is a win!!!!!

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                  • beanstalk
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                    That works both ways, Maybe you were rooting for pac.
                    oops, 'got you there. i won lots of money for EM via UD on this one. HAHA! I got one post that says EM will win.

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                    • Run
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by beanstalk
                      oops, 'got you there. i won lots of money for EM via UD on this one. HAHA! I got one post that says EM will win.
                      Put Your Money Where Your Name is.

                      at least place it in your wallet so we can see exactly how you are "rolling in dough" or "holdin the goldin goose" or some other cheesy addeage.



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